Reply With QuoteYou wanna take Clomid. M-drol (SD clone) has a rep of causing gyno during PCT. I have read Clomid is a must during pct.
Nolvadex vs. Clomid
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12-30-2010, 01:08 PM #1Registered User
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Nolvadex vs. Clomid
I plan on running a cycle of M-Drol in the near future. But I can't choose weather I want to use Clomid or Nolvadex for my PCT. Any suggestions? Anyone use both and have better results with one or the other? Any input would be awesome.
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Run both, Clomod helps to restore testicular function and nolva helps with gyno issues. I have run both Pct and will swear by them
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Originally Posted by Crank
What kind dosages did you run them at?
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12-30-2010, 02:09 PM #5wrk'n project mayhem
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I'm pretty sure this topic has never been covered before. Good thread.... hammer925, did you try a google search or search some of the previous threads before you posted this?
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Its best to start with 40-50 mg of Nolvadex and 150 mg of Clomid a day for the first week then drop to 25mg of nolv and 100 clo for 2nd week. , and then finish the program with 50 mg of Clomid for an additional two weeks.
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Originally Posted by awhites1
I'm pretty sure this topic has never been covered before. Good thread.... hammer925, did you try a google search or search some of the previous threads before you posted this?
I have done lots research on google and numerous other forums. But a lot of the forums were outdated. So I just wanted to actually talk to people who've taken these PCTs firsthand to see what they thought of them.
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Originally Posted by Crank
So for the last 2 weeks drop the Nolva and just go with Clomid? Obviously unless gyno occurs then take some Nolva?
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12-30-2010, 02:30 PM #9Registered User
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yup. thats what i do. some take less but i prefer to block as much estro as possible lol. estro will eat ur gains
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Originally Posted by Crank
Did u go with the liquid or the pill form?
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12-30-2010, 02:37 PM #11Get outta my yard ELITE MEMBER
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you have to watch your eyes with SERMs. You can get vascular occlusion. It didn't pay any heed to it and now I have some visual problems.
See Glycoman's articles at: http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f497/
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pills.
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Originally Posted by Crank
Alright cool thanks for the help man. I was thinking pills too because I've heard that A. liquid tastes like shit and B. pills work better anyways.
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Originally Posted by Glycomann
Pay attention guys. I have a buddy that can't take clomid because it blurs his vision. He stopped before he did permanent damage.
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Read this and then make up your mind. There is a detailed comparison of the two based on science not broscience. I for one will be using Nolva unless there is some bad reaction to it based on this informative read.
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I hear that Clomid causes more acne and has to do with having to use more dosage wise than Nolva. What is also troubling from what I have learned about Clomid is that Clomid seems to affect the eyesight. Apparently "long-term" Clomid therapy causes irreversible changes in eyesight in users. Irreversible. Usually 4 to 6 weeks is recommended as a general PCT duration. I am not sure one way or the other what is considered "long term" use duration wise. But for me that alone is reason enough to prefer Nolvadex.
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