Thread: Bad injection

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Shit my eyes aren't that good.

Originally Posted by BigBird

Yeah that's pretty damn near eagle vision to focus on the 1/10th ml lines down at your ass. Good eyesight.
I might try that just for shits n giggles.

Ouch that sucks. But bigbird, I don't pin my ass. I thought I said it in here, but I just can't twist that well AND I go kinda cross eyed holding it there and focusing for that long and I just go fucking batshit crazy.... lol ya, so thats why I've never pinned my ass after my first time.

Originally Posted by Beejis60

Ouch that sucks. But bigbird, I don't pin my ass. I thought I said it in here, but I just can't twist that well AND I go kinda cross eyed holding it there and focusing for that long and I just go fucking batshit crazy.... lol ya, so thats why I've never pinned my ass after my first time.

My bad. I thought you pinned glutes. I can't bring myself to pin quads. Only delts and glutes. It must be something psychological that prevents me from pinning the quad although if doing it correctly it seems much more convenient without the twisting and crossing over with the other arm to get proper alignment etc. Pinning glute and delt make me damn near strain an oblique or displace a rib. Maybe I'll consider quads someday, who knows.

Originally Posted by BigBird

My bad. I thought you pinned glutes. I can't bring myself to pin quads. Only delts and glutes. It must be something psychological that prevents me from pinning the quad although if doing it correctly it seems much more convenient without the twisting and crossing over with the other arm to get proper alignment etc. Pinning glute and delt make me damn near strain an oblique or displace a rib. Maybe I'll consider quads someday, who knows.

It's hard for me to reach my delts unless I'm prying my arm against the door to fully reach around and operate the needle.... which almost always leads me to flex the muscle before and during the injection which of course causes more post-injection pain than an unflexed muscle.
As for quads, it's my 2nd favorite behind pecs. But there's really nothing to be scared about when pinning them; it's the same thing as delts except a much bigger area and a lot easier to reach.

Pinned a vein once. I must have pushed BARELY through it because when I aspirated I was clear. I now begin aspirating about 3/4 the way through pushing the needle into the muscle to make sure I'm not "close".

Anyway, I was using a 25g and testosterone enanthate only (2cc). The slower injection speed, the ester, or the fact that there was no tren may have spared me these kinds of sides. I know the body has a different reaction to SOME of the shorter esters especially upon cleavage. I got down to half a cc or so and began developing this tightness in my chest and this irritation similar to tren cough... did my best to control my heaving and bodily shaking and breathing patterns so I could just finish the pin. Pulled out and had a nasty fit of coughing so rough that my balls hurt (serious).

By the way , as soon as I finished the injection, blood started flowing into the needle without lifting the plunger. DEFINITELY right in a vein. I felt like shit for the rest of the night and couldnt breathe deeply without coughing again.

Originally Posted by Beejis60

It's hard for me to reach my delts unless I'm prying my arm against the door to fully reach around and operate the needle.... which almost always leads me to flex the muscle before and during the injection which of course causes more post-injection pain than an unflexed muscle.
As for quads, it's my 2nd favorite behind pecs. But there's really nothing to be scared about when pinning them; it's the same thing as delts except a much bigger area and a lot easier to reach.

Agreed with beejis. With the exception of my bad pin listed above (which was quads), pecs and quads have been my all time favorites. You get TWO hands which makes the entire process a joke, and believe it or not a small pectoral can bury a 1.5" needle to the hilt with no problems. I go 3 finger widths above the nipple.

I stopped glute injections bc I couldn't turn around to see what I was doing without straining myself. The quad allowed me to see everything I'm doing and use both hands freely. Those are the reasons why I like quads. Delt for me would be a little tough, especially aspirating bc you aren't using two hands. Maybe I'll go calves when I need a new spot but quads have been a god send since I started them. Plus the quad is so big, you have a large muscle to pick a spot and not get too much acar tissue in one spot. Only issue I had was that I left the band aid on during my chest workout. While I was laying down with the dbs, my short leg rode up some and I wasn't sure if people could see the band aid which would be a dead giveaway that I'm using. And since I had two dbs in my hand, I couldn't just pull it down to cover the band aid so I rushed the set lol.

Originally Posted by warrior504th

Agreed with beejis. With the exception of my bad pin listed above (which was quads), pecs and quads have been my all time favorites. You get TWO hands which makes the entire process a joke, and believe it or not a small pectoral can bury a 1.5" needle to the hilt with no problems. I go 3 finger widths above the nipple.

I vary my pin placement for pecs, anywhere from about 1-1.5" above the nip all the way to about 4 finger widths from my collar bone, pretty much anywhere horizontally.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

I stopped glute injections bc I couldn't turn around to see what I was doing without straining myself. The quad allowed me to see everything I'm doing and use both hands freely. Those are the reasons why I like quads. Delt for me would be a little tough, especially aspirating bc you aren't using two hands. Maybe I'll go calves when I need a new spot but quads have been a god send since I started them. Plus the quad is so big, you have a large muscle to pick a spot and not get too much acar tissue in one spot. Only issue I had was that I left the band aid on during my chest workout. While I was laying down with the dbs, my short leg rode up some and I wasn't sure if people could see the band aid which would be a dead giveaway that I'm using. And since I had two dbs in my hand, I couldn't just pull it down to cover the band aid so I rushed the set lol.

Awww that's cute. I hope you're using those super sexy sponge bob bandaids...

You really put bandaids on your injection sites? Hell after it's done I can't even find them. I even got up and stared at my ass for a second this morning and I couldn't see anything from last night. I can feel it but I can't see it.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

I stopped glute injections bc I couldn't turn around to see what I was doing without straining myself. The quad allowed me to see everything I'm doing and use both hands freely. Those are the reasons why I like quads. Delt for me would be a little tough, especially aspirating bc you aren't using two hands. Maybe I'll go calves when I need a new spot but quads have been a god send since I started them. Plus the quad is so big, you have a large muscle to pick a spot and not get too much acar tissue in one spot. Only issue I had was that I left the band aid on during my chest workout. While I was laying down with the dbs, my short leg rode up some and I wasn't sure if people could see the band aid which would be a dead giveaway that I'm using. And since I had two dbs in my hand, I couldn't just pull it down to cover the band aid so I rushed the set lol.

I might eventually get sick of contorting and straining to pin delts and glutes but the fact is I've never had an adverse effect from pinning - ever. So I'm reluctant to "fix something that's not broken." However, my physique has become a challenge to the flexibility required for such kind of pinning, especially at an awkward angle and with one hand.

I'll have to read up on where exactly to pin the quad.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Awww that's cute. I hope you're using those super sexy sponge bob bandaids...

You really put bandaids on your injection sites? Hell after it's done I can't even find them. I even got up and stared at my ass for a second this morning and I couldn't see anything from last night. I can feel it but I can't see it.

Yes I do use a band aid. Every injection I've ever done had some bleeding, whether it be a very small amount to probably nearly a ml of blood. It's better than having a blood stain on my work pants all day. I use a 23g so it probably causes more scar tissue and blood than a 25g.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

Yes I do use a band aid. Every injection I've ever done had some bleeding, whether it be a very small amount to probably nearly a ml of blood. It's better than having a blood stain on my work pants all day. I use a 23g so it probably causes more scar tissue and blood than a 25g.

LOL and if you stain your pants you can't say you're on your period huh? I guess you can still say sex was rough last night.

Originally Posted by BigBird

My bad. I thought you pinned glutes. I can't bring myself to pin quads. Only delts and glutes. It must be something psychological that prevents me from pinning the quad although if doing it correctly it seems much more convenient without the twisting and crossing over with the other arm to get proper alignment etc. Pinning glute and delt make me damn near strain an oblique or displace a rib. Maybe I'll consider quads someday, who knows.

im the same way i tried my quads once and every time i got close i would pull back just couldnt bring myself to do it. i just taught my girl how to give me a shot so now i can just chill while she does all the work.

I forgot you have to do that at work. However, I've never had any blood come out yet.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

I forgot you have to do that at work. However, I've never had any blood come out yet.

You will when you go thru a vein. I've gone thru a vein a few times and it bled quite a bit. Otherwise it's generally just a small amount.

Originally Posted by gsxrguy

Z track is where after you make the intial insertion of the needleinto the top layer of fat but before you hit muscle you pull the area around the injection site overa bit and finish inserting the pin into the muscle. The theaory is that the "holes" wont line up when you pull the needle out so no gear leaks back out. Kinda uses the top layer skin and fat to drift back over the hole in the muscle sealing it off. Make sense? Im not the worlds best communicator.

Not quite. You pull the skin/subcutaneous tissue/muscle aside BEFORE you inject. After you have injected your medication, you withdraw the needle and immediately release the skin and sub-q tissue.

You can look it up online, there are pics and even videos.

Originally Posted by BigBird

I'll have to read up on where exactly to pin the quad.

Imagine drawing a "t" on your quad splitting it equally into four quadrants. The upper, outer quadrant is considered "safe", though I've pinned my middle head of the quad before.... doesn't feel great at all.

Originally Posted by bmw

Not quite. You pull the skin/subcutaneous tissue/muscle aside BEFORE you inject. After you have injected your medication, you withdraw the needle and immediately release the skin and sub-q tissue.

You can look it up online, there are pics and even videos.

I've never heard of that nor do I do it. I just drop it in the area I want, aspirate, then go to town.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

I always take about 45sec to inject. I feel that even that is too long. Just 1ml though. I couldn't hold the thing still for 3min.



Damnit Beavis!



Wouldn't you have to hold that top layer of skin the entire time. That sounds like just another pain in my ass. Pun intended.

Negative Houston thats why its called Z track. After you pull the skin over and then pin into the muscle the pin holds everything in place till ya pull it out then when everything moves back into place the "pin holes" dont line up and no gear leaks. I dont personally use the method cuz I rarely leak and when I do its a whatev thing to me. It just for those that cant stand to see any gear wasted.

Originally Posted by bmw

Not quite. You pull the skin/subcutaneous tissue/muscle aside BEFORE you inject. After you have injected your medication, you withdraw the needle and immediately release the skin and sub-q tissue.

You can look it up online, there are pics and even videos.

Ya I know bro LOOK at what I wrote. Thats exactly what I said in diff words. Why would I tell someone to inject before the pin was completely burried in muscle???

lol thats bad

Originally Posted by gsxrguy

Ya I know bro LOOK at what I wrote. Thats exactly what I said in diff words. Why would I tell someone to inject before the pin was completely burried in muscle???

way old thread got bumped and I never noticed your reply, but you're still wrong. You go LOOK at what you wrote.

You said, "make the initial insertion of the needle into the top layer of fat but before you hit muscle you pull the area around the injection site over a bit and finish inserting the pin into the muscle." So according to you, you push the needle into the subQ layer, THEN you pull the skin/subQ layer over, then you complete the insertion of the needle into the muscle.

Now go read again what I wrote. Pull the skin and subQ layer aside before you even break the skin with the needle, not after (as you said).

See the difference? Not exactly the same, it's exactly different.