Thread: Adding Deca.

HeavyIron is a Master with this subject.

I would ramp the T up to keep libido.

What are your goals with the deca?

I would ramp the T up to keep libido.

What are your goals with the deca?

Thanks Heavy... looking to help boost strength and put on some BW.. thinking to run it at about 400ew. I am at 227lbs BW right now.. thought about ramping T up to 600ew.. What do you think????

Originally Posted by Big Dawg

Thanks Heavy... looking to help boost strength and put on some BW.. thinking to run it at about 400ew. I am at 227lbs BW right now.. thought about ramping T up to 600ew.. What do you think????

I would go higher on the T. May as well put the hammer down and make some big gains.

800 T weekly
400 Deca weekly

I would go higher on the T. May as well put the hammer down and make some big gains.

800 T weekly
400 Deca weekly

Will do!!!! Thanks for the "advise"!!!! Very helpfull.

Originally Posted by Big Dawg

Thanks Heavy... looking to help boost strength and put on some BW.. thinking to run it at about 400ew. I am at 227lbs BW right now.. thought about ramping T up to 600ew.. What do you think????

Sounds like you want to cycle instead of adding a low dose of deca to your test.

Ramp up the dose. RUn 2:1 of 1.5:1 Ratio of test to deca

Sounds like you want to cycle instead of adding a low dose of deca to your test.

Ramp up the dose. RUn 2:1 of 1.5:1 Ratio of test to deca

Yes I do want to cycle not add!!! Thanks for the advise!!!

Originally Posted by Big Dawg

Will do!!!! Thanks for the "advise"!!!! Very helpfull.

No problem, keep us posted.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I would go higher on the T. May as well put the hammer down and make some big gains.

800 T weekly
400 Deca weekly

Using this amount of AAS would you add an AI?

Originally Posted by G3

Using this amount of AAS would you add an AI?

Absolutely!

Yes... AI, along with, caber or prami.

CABER = A GODSEND When using 19nor's !!!!

I wont ever run a 19nor again without it.. but yah low dose adex won't hurt either, but honestly in my opinion, keep the diet clean, u might not need the AI and all you'll be doing when taking it is just hindering possible gains.. but if you are susceptible to horrendous sides then yah.. go for it.. take it

I'm taking letro at 2.5mg ED right now and making strong gains each work out. Guess that goes to show you how high some people's aromatase activity is.

Originally Posted by chronicelite

I'm taking letro at 2.5mg ED right now and making strong gains each work out. Guess that goes to show you how high some people's aromatase activity is.

Once a person shoots around 250-600mg of aromatizing compounds weekly, E2 often enters the female range as you now know since you have been getting labs. Also, Nandrolone does aromatize to E2. Most of the time on the net guys recommend a prolactin lowering med when in fact an AI should always be used first with Testosterone and Nandrolone.

Additionally, there is little to no evidence that high E2 is responsible for muscle gains. In fact high androgens are linked directly to muscle gains not high E2.

Estrogen may have an effect on muscle mass, but it's small in comparison to dht. and this is found by REPLACING the estrogen lost from testosterone from the testes that would be aromatized. So physiological levels of estrogen have a minor role in supporting muscle mass, but on cycle remember that your estrogen is supraphysiological and that an AI will only cut about half of it.

Looking at your last labs your E2 is definately above physiological.

I will provide any studies you want on this matter in the elite section.

Yes... AI, along with, caber or prami.

Looking for advise on dosage and time frame for both the Ai. and Prami or Caber? Based on

800 T weekly
400 Deca weekly

Thanks

2.5mg of letro per day almost crippled me