Thread: newbi cycle

Originally Posted by ThE PiT BuLL

Hi all, Im 27, 6''2, 198lb not sure about bf. been training on and off for 6 years last 3 years 5x a week.

I have been given 20ml of SUS 250 and 20ml of DECA 200, i wanna start my first cycle, done alot of searching on this topic but everyone has different view. but i have it now and it was free.

1-12 sus 250/ .6ml(eod) and i think but correct me 527mg a week?
1-10 deca200/ 2ml a week = 400mg
1-15 liquiarima(AI)
15-18 pct Clomid or Novla have both

This is probably not what you want to hear, but you should grab yourself another 10ml bottle of Sus and shoot at least 1ml every three days with that amount of DECA. I would personally bump Test to 750mg/wk if I were you.

Also, you might want to consider running H.C.G. throughout your cycle and only use the AI if you need it. Clomid is fine for PCT.

Hey dude, if you done a fair amount of research post what ur plan ...Complete is so you can get some useful input....deca ,sus ratios not right....no pct plan laid out...

Test to Deca ration should be AT LEAST 1.5:1. That is 600mg test to accompany 400mg Deca EW.

Originally Posted by ThE PiT BuLL

Hi all, Im 27, 6''2, 198lb not sure about bf. been training on and off for 6 years last 3 years 5x a week.

I have been given 20ml of SUS 250 and 20ml of DECA 200, i wanna start my first cycle, done alot of searching on this topic but everyone has different view. but i have it now and it was free.

1-12 sus 250/ .6ml(eod) and i think but correct me 527mg a week?
1-10 deca200/ 2ml a week = 400mg
1-15 liquiarima(AI)
15-18 pct Clomid or Novla have both

Skip the Deca. Test only for a first cycle... That's my opinion.

I like the EOD dosing for the sust. I'd maybe consider running it at around 600mg/EW for 8 weeks. Keep the Nolva (Just in case) and use the Clomid for PCT. I'm not familiar with liquarima. I'm guessing this is a research chem arimidex? I'd also add hCG at 1000iu/EW (split in 2 doses per week).

Originally Posted by Buzzard

Skip the Deca. Test only for a first cycle... That's my opinion.

I like the EOD dosing for the sust. I'd maybe consider running it at around 600mg/EW for 8 weeks. Keep the Nolva (Just in case) and use the Clomid for PCT. I'm not familiar with liquarima. I'm guessing this is a research chem arimidex? I'd also add hCG at 1000iu/EW (split in 2 doses per week).

Agree.

You need to have to AI on hand because of the Deca.

kool thanks for ur help guys, much appreciated i have another question about deca.

what is it about deca that people dilike so much???,

Originally Posted by ThE PiT BuLL

kool thanks for ur help guys, much appreciated i have another question about deca.

what is it about deca that people dilike so much???,

Your weiner dont work so good ! get some viagra !

Originally Posted by Buzzard

Skip the Deca. Test only for a first cycle... That's my opinion.

I like the EOD dosing for the sust. I'd maybe consider running it at around 600mg/EW for 8 weeks. Keep the Nolva (Just in case) and use the Clomid for PCT. I'm not familiar with liquarima. I'm guessing this is a research chem arimidex? I'd also add hCG at 1000iu/EW (split in 2 doses per week).

This !

lol my wife 1 week ago gave birth to my son so i wont be getting any for a while. lol

Originally Posted by ThE PiT BuLL

kool thanks for ur help guys, much appreciated i have another question about deca.

what is it about deca that people dilike so much???,

Deca is a great compound,
But not something someone new to steroids wants to try.

Get the ratio with Deca and test mixed up it will cause Deca Dick.
Its also very hard on the HTPA system so recovery is quite a bitch.
Also it causes a type of gyno which would allow you breast feed you son.

Originally Posted by blazeftp

Deca is a great compound,
But not something someone new to steroids wants to try.

Get the ratio with Deca and test mixed up it will cause Deca Dick.
Its also very hard on the HTPA system so recovery is quite a bitch.
Also it causes a type of gyno which would allow you breast feed you son.

Yep, I had quite the witch's brew lactating from my tits when I used Deca early on in my aas experience. I'm still traumatized. Although, I've used it more properly since then.

BigBird thanks for the pm, unable to pm back not enough post yet. but non the less thank you and best wishes you and your family.

Stick to just the sustanon. No need for deca on first cycle. I wouldn't go over 600-700 mg per week since it's your first cycle. IMO, you're better off going with test e.

ok when would u run deca in a cycle,

also how long can my gear last unopened,

Originally Posted by ThE PiT BuLL

ok when would u run deca in a cycle,

You could run the Deca in your next cycle. Run it at half the dose of the test; that is a 2:1 ratio test to deca. You could get away with smaller ration like 600mg test and 400mg Deca EW. And run the test for two additional weeks beyond the last shot of deca.

Originally Posted by ThE PiT BuLL

also how long can my gear last unopened,

All gear is supposed to have an expiration date marked on box/bottle, amp/vial etc. Store in a dark place at room temperature until you use it.

Good advice from Big Bird^^^

thanks to all for the info on deca, gonna run my sus only ...

ok my goal is to put on 20lb on this cycle what dosages do u recommend and i only got 20ml to start with.

I love the on and off training years lol.

500 mg per week for 12 weeks. You probably need one more vial. But if your training and diet are "on", 20 lbs shouldn't be a prob.

looking into getting more but say
500mg per week will give me 10 weeks yes
Is this too short???

No that's fine but generally vials are under filled so you might not have enough for 10 weeks. But there's a chance you may get a full 10 ml per vial. First rule of using gear is "have everything on hand before you start including all items for pct, AIs, pins, gear, etc". What if your package gets seized or something happens to your source that would not permit you to receive what you need? I think you should wait until you have EVERYTHING. What's a couple more weeks? It's your body. Do it right.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

No that's fine but generally vials are under filled so you might not have enough for 10 weeks. But there's a chance you may get a full 10 ml per vial. First rule of using gear is "have everything on hand before you start including all items for pct, AIs, pins, gear, etc". What if your package gets seized or something happens to your source that would not permit you to receive what you need? I think you should wait until you have EVERYTHING. What's a couple more weeks? It's your body. Do it right.

x2! There's a right way and a wrong way to do things and you highlighted the right way.

I was going to post the same exact thing as Ripped. Good post man.

Make sure you have everything on hand before you start. ALL OF THE GEAR, AI's, PCT, Pins, Sticks, hell I even went and got some alcohol swabs while I was waiting.

Another good piece of advice. Grab some extra stuff just incase something bad happens. It's good protocol to have atleast nolva on hand incase of gyno flare ups. I think keeping some letro around is a good idea also.

Ya drop the deca for a first time cycle for sure. also Id bump that sust up to a full cc etd and like a few guys on here have said get all ur shit together before you start. So youll prob wanna pick another bottle of sust. And btw free is awsome hook a brotha up!