Thread: Question on a proper oral cycle

You could go with a mild oral such as Anavar (oxandrolone) at a dose of 60-80mg ED. A good eight (8) weeks. Many guys swear by the defined and ripped appearance this gives them, not to mention the strength gains. Read up on the 'Var first.

I have read that you can put on a lot of water weight, which is something I easily do.

So do I need to take an estrogen blocker with that.

I was wanting to do a stack.

I was also thinking of adding clen to whatever I try.

Not sure if I am on the right track or not to get what I want.

Usually a stack should consist of an oral AND an injectable. Anavar does not contribute to water retention hence the lean ripped appearance it gives. You probably don't need to do an estrogen blocker if you're only doing a mild solo 'Var cycle but if you're going to end up stacking then yes, you'll need an AI such as Arimidex at 0.5mg EOD. Proviron has always helped minimize water retention in my cycles at 25mg ED. You should consider adding 200-400mg of Test EW in order to maximize the stack. You will increase your LBM on Test and 'Var but you also won't blow up on a moderately low dose of Test. Don't forget your PCT to start 2 weeks after last shot of test. A good choice would be Clomid 100mg ED for Week 1. 75mg ED Weeks 2-3 and 50mg ED Week 4.

Super DMZ is legal and would cut you up if your diet was right and you weren't too fat to start with. Its all about diet. Unless you can deal with sweating and shakes I wouldn't touch the clen. You would just need clomid for PCT on DMZ, no need for an AI during the cycle.

Why don't you want to do injections? Steroids are steroids, its not less of a deal to do injections, yet injections are more effective and if you do them right safer.

I said no AI needed with a 'Var only cycle and suggested an AI only if he stacks with Test like he said he wants to do. If he is looking for a solo oral cycle to get more cut up then 'Var should give him good results.

Originally Posted by acepanz

I have been reading about different cycles and looking info up but I am actually confussed about what would be the best way for me to go.

I am looking to add definition and to cut up.

Could anyone recommend what would be a good oral cycle to go one to accomplish this. I do not want to do injections.

I have been working out hard for the past two years, before that I had not worked out in years. I have gotten myself into good shape but I am looking for more. I am 40 years old.

Any help would be appreciated because I thought I knew what I was going to do and now I am not sure.

Thank you

What are your stats? Weight? BF%?

Originally Posted by BigBird

I said no AI needed with a 'Var only cycle and suggested an AI only if he stacks with Test like he said he wants to do. If he is looking for a solo oral cycle to get more cut up then 'Var should give him good results.

I re-read it and saw that. Var by itself isn't going to offer him anything unless he is already low teens or lower BF %. He's better off with tbol if hes not. Or DMZ, like I suggested.

Originally Posted by Life

I re-read it and saw that. Var by itself isn't going to offer him anything unless he is already low teens or lower BF %. He's better off with tbol if hes not. Or DMZ, like I suggested.

what kind of pct for tbol?

I'd do the same as everything else, 100/75/50/50 Clomid. Up to you as to whether or not to do an oral only cycle. I have and still gained and kept 20lbs on virgin receptors.