Thread: Test E/EQ cycle

I think the test is supposed to be at a higher dose than the EQ. My test is in the range of 625-650 weekly and EQ is 500-600mg weekly. I know a lot of people can have good results with 400mg of EQ weekly but in most cases their test dose is at least twice what yours is. If you're gyno prone, try to get some Arimidex before you start and take 0.5 mg EOD throughout cycle. You could also add Proviron to the stack at 25mg ED but I just noticed you have Nolva to take during the cycle. Not to mention the PCT you'll need following the end of the cycle. Usually Clomid would be used for this purpose for 4 weeks and beginning 2 weeks after your last shot of Test.

What is the ultimate goal you're looking for from this cycle?

Looking for a slow bulk. Nothing massive. Thats why I want to take the Dbol on the back end. Just in case i dont get the size im looking for from the test/eq. looking for 12-15lbs, hoping to keep 7-10lbs. I have a better than avg diet, not looking to run a 100% clean bulk.
6am= 6eggs, 2 pieces of wheat bread, fruit
8am= protein shake 50g of protein
10am= 4oz chicken breast with cup of veggies
1pm = 6oz chicken breats, cup of brown rice, 2 oatmeal cookies
3pm= protein shake 50g of protein
5pm= turkey on wheat, 1 cup almonds
7pm= 5oz of fish, cup of veggies, baked potato,
9pm= protein shake 40g

that is my basic diet. i have wacky work hours sometimes, so i wont sit here and lie and say that will be what i eat everyday. but its close.

message my box about arimidex if you dont mind. you can explain that to me in moe detail

250mg of test a week is close to an HRT dose. Not worth shutting down your own test production for that amount. EQ is best run at HIGH doses for prolonged periods of time. 400mg is on the VERY low side and you may not notice anything off of that. I'm not a fan of putting dbol in the tail end of the cycle....PCT becomes a bit more difficult on me.

Test enan 1-12 600mg EW
EQ 1-12 500mg EW
dbol 1-5 30-50mg ED


Arimidex or any other AI for that matter. Start it on day one, until PCT is over. If using Adex, start with .5mg EOD. If you notice bloat or water retention, up the AI dose ever so slightly. Clomid for post. Since you are using EQ, I would try and stretch the whole thing for another 2 weeks if you can. Good luck.



/V


Are you running any HCG?

got it. thanks so much guys.
no i am not running HCG. should I?

Originally Posted by johnnyringo74

got it. thanks so much guys.
no i am not running HCG. should I?

Ask yourself one question...."do you want your balls to shrink into the size of raisins?" If you answered yes....than you will need some HCG.

If you don't use it, your balls will shrink, but will gradually come back to size. I always use HCG....I like my balls just the way they are.



/V

HCG also helps with recovery as well. It's a good idea to use but not absolutely necessary. I didn't use it this cycle and my boys are about the size of almonds. You really do need an AI though, especially since you mentioned you are gyno sensitive. Listen to V. He's a master mind with a huge Doberman!

Originally Posted by johnnyringo74

Ok guys
6'1 230
Lifting 15 yrs (im a football coach/strength coach)
4 previous cycles= 2 cycles of sust 250 14 and 15 years ago. test cyp and deca cycle 10 yrs ago. Test cyp only cycle 7 yrs ago.

I have purchased Unigen Test E 250 and I plan on stacking with EQ 400 for 12 weeks. I have nolva on hand for pct and any gyno issues. i am gyno sensitive.
right now i plan on running only 250 of the test per week and 400 of EQ.
I have more test on hand, but since its been a few years, i was gonna go lose dose to see how i respond. Now if u guys feel 500 a week of the test is the better route, i will adjust. Also i plan on running 30mg of blue hearts for four weeks on the back end. thanks for any suggestions and help.

I think 500 a week will get you more of a guarantee of decent results. I do fine on lower end doses but I don't think I am typical or at least a lot of guys seem to use more. I would suggest getting some arimidex or aromasin, an AI, instead fo the nolvadex. The AIs work a lot better for those that are gyno prone. I use letrozole and adjusted my particular dose with blood work. I use 0.5 mg every third day and that keeps my stro in a good normal range on a decent amount of aromatizing compounds. This is going to be especially useful for you to have an AI in place when you hit your dianabol sicne it concerts a lot to 17 methyl estradiol which is way more porent than natural estradiol.

Test enan 1-12 600mg EW
EQ 1-12 500mg EW
Im running this as part of my 20 week operation get fucking ripped cycle !

Good luck bro !

guys this is awesome. im getting a lot of feedback and zero attitude. very refreshing.

ok, well ill try and see if i can find some arimidex.

Originally Posted by johnnyringo74

guys this is awesome. im getting a lot of feedback and zero attitude. very refreshing.

ok, well ill try and see if i can find some arimidex.

You are being a gentleman so we shall treat you as such. In case you can't find adex, you can use aromasin instead. I would also take 3gr of vitamin C daily....it really works. Good luck bro.



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if you dont want to blow up rapidly i would just not even use the dbol...
Im no expert but i have some experience and dbol is gonna make you big fast!

My goal is very similar to JohnnyRingoj, looking for a slow bulk with sustainablility, my stats are a little smaller, 5'10", 190, at the gym 3-5days/wk, but with some JKD Kali thrown in for cardio and knowledge 3 days a week. I have previous cycles of DD and 1 cycle of Sustanon 300. Diet is similar to JR, breakfast: eggs and bagel, mid-morning: protein shake/meal replacement bar, lunch: 2 turkey and provolone flat bread wheat sandwiches, mid day snack: protein bar/shake/meal replacement bar, evening:chicken/red meat, pasta salad, bed time: protein shake and multi-vitamin. How should I tweak the dosages, if at all, according to my size?

thanx victor. both arimidex and aromasin present problems. and i wont ask questions that shouldnt be asked. bu ti havent delt with either. so ill have to do some research and find some. thanx again guys. btw, im an auburn grad, WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

Ask yourself one question...."do you want your balls to shrink into the size of raisins?" If you answered yes....than you will need some HCG.

If you don't use it, your balls will shrink, but will gradually come back to size. I always use HCG....I like my balls just the way they are.



/V

i guess u look at em everyday dude .. is good for u man coz i don't

to be honest i experienced that shit Shrinkage last week ..

it's fucking embarrassing with gf

Originally Posted by tomy2

i guess u look at em everyday dude .. is good for u man coz i don't

Sure, I sneak a peak every so often. But my wife is the one who has the luxury of looking at them and playing with them all the time.



/V