First Cycle and PCT
And refer to sponsors for supplies, and BTW you're too young.

Hi! First post... be gentle.
Wanted to start on some form of steroids for a long time. I am slim build and have tried the gym a few times in the past but only for a few months then given up.
I just started going to the gym again four times a week, and I understand that it's better to wait until I'm bigger before I start to use, but I really want to see results FAST!
I'm on a high protein diet and intend to purchase test e, hgh and hch in the next week.
Plan on taking 250mg weekly of test e for 10 weeks. When should I start taking the HGH and HCG and at what dose and interval.
I'm 5ft 10 and weigh 147lbs and 22yo. Also, do you think I'll need anti es? If so, what shall I use, where can I get, and when should I take?
Thanks in advance.
First Cycle and PCT
And refer to sponsors for supplies, and BTW you're too young.


Here we go again...
Here I copied and pasted this from another thread I answered earlier:
Dude, I'm gonna tell you what I tell all the young bucks that are too young for AAS...wait a few years. Trust me, you'll be thankful you did. At your age, you have TONS of anabolic hormones coursing through your body. Eat more, train hard and smart, and you will continue to grow. Using AAS or prohormones at your age is just impatience or laziness. You can do more damage to your body than good.
If you feel stuck at a certain weight or size, post in the training and diet section for help. We would be happy to give you some pointers on how to grow naturally. You have plenty of natural growth left in you at 22.
In addition, AAS aren't something you use to get you back in the gym. They are used once you have developed your diet and training habits and have reached your natural potential.


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RIP Mikhail Caldwell - AKA "supermansdaddy"
Just invest all of that money in steak and chicken and eat it all.

If you can't stick with going to the gym for more than a few months before you give up, what makes you think steroids are the answer?
You need to be mentally stronger before you can become physically stronger.
Listen to these guys I'm proof that eating a shit load and working your ass off in the gym works. I put on 30-35 lbs in the past 1.5 years. No AAS all natty. I started at 130 and im now up to 165 at around 9-10% bf. The first year you'll see fast gains.
You need to get into the gym and get a solid workout plan started before anything else. Even while taking AAS you still gotta work your ass off man. AAS isnt going to magically grow muscles for you, the iron is what makes the muscles grow.

I did say that I know I'm being impatient.
I'll hold my hands up and admit I'm being impatient. I've read so many threads about people getting amazing results in 10 to 12 weeks on test and I've done the gym four times a week for at least six months before and not seen barely any results.
Yes, I know I'm definitely taking the lazy and impatient option. But I feel that if I saw good gains after a 12 week course then I would definitely keep up the gym. One of the reasons I quit is because I'm so much smaller than everyone else there. If I got bigger then I'd keep up the gym minus the test after the 10/12 weeks.


Did you read anything posted above? You are too young, too light and too inexperienced. Want to use AAS? Then grow up, gain weight and develop a proven training and diet program. If you post in the "Training" and "Diet and Nutrition" Forum, we would be happy to help you there, but you are barking up the wrong tree in the "Anabolic Forum".
Read James-27's post...that should encourage you. You WILL grow naturally, if you train and eat consistently.


I was willing to help you with your diet, but you failed to answer one of my questions about your protein intake. What some think a "high protein diet" might differ from the actual definition. Bottom line, using AAS at this point will do you more harm than good.
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RIP Mikhail Caldwell - AKA "supermansdaddy"
Lol dude when I started I was the smallest, weakest guy in the gym and still am one of the smallest. I couldnt bench 110 lbs, not even one time.
Do you even know any of the potential side effects that come along with this stuff? You have any idea on what to take and or how much to help with the sides? In all honesty AAS isnt for you bro until you get something solid going anyways. We cant control you tho.

proper stiffs these lot fink they are all on roid rage mate no point askin these lot any questions mate