Thread: anavar,winny or dianobol

u will need to do around 100mg of dbol a day.

and ur sex drive may dive on a dbol only cycle.

milk thistle will help protect ur liver too.

people dont recommend using 2 orals at the same time because a17's are harmful enuff.

what are ur stats?

you wont put on any with winny. (thats my experience) it seems to give me some strength but my gains are minimal.

winny has lesss sides....

its a catch 22.

I'd go with 'var at like 50-60mg/ed for the last 4-6wks, enough time for the tren to clear. You'll put on a few lbs due to the var, you'll still get the hardening effects, and you wont put on any kind of water. Not to mention how easy var is on the body.

Originally Posted by Crank

u will need to do around 100mg of dbol a day.

and ur sex drive may dive on a dbol only cycle.

milk thistle will help protect ur liver too.

people dont recommend using 2 orals at the same time because a17's are harmful enuff.

what are ur stats?

you wont put on any with winny. (thats my experience) it seems to give me some strength but my gains are minimal.

winny has lesss sides....

its a catch 22.

I'd go with 'var at like 50-60mg/ed for the last 4-6wks, enough time for the tren to clear. You'll put on a few lbs due to the var, you'll still get the hardening effects, and you wont put on any kind of water. Not to mention how easy var is on the body.

100mg of dbol ED ? That is a typo I hope

Originally Posted by hylandky

hey, been doing alot of research on anavar,winstrol and d-bol, but everythings so scattered so im just going to post my spacific questions on here. i know d-bol is the best bulking steriod, and winstrol /anavar are for cutting, id like to put on around 10-15lbs of muscle or so but im worried about acne, on just 1, 6 week cycle on any of these what kind of results would be normal ,working out 5 times a week hard/decent diet. and also what kind of acne are you looking at if you were say prone to it in the past on these?

the only thing you need to do right now is read.

First Cycle and PCT

good catch. got confused.

50 for dbol

i usually do 100 for winny

I'ts really a matter of quality or quantity. You'll gain 10 to15 lbs on 50 mgs of dbol in 6 weeks easily, but it's mostly water and you'll probably loose half over the next 6 weeks. I'd run the dbol first and follow it up with a month of winny to solidify your gains. Although both are pretty hepatoxic, ecspecially the winny if u take it orally. I agree u should take some milk thiskle or some Liv 4 while ur on. I wouldn't even disappoint urself with the var, but if ur worried about acne that be the one to take. It's the least androgenic of the 3 but not very anabolic relative to dbol or winny. Hope that helps.

Originally Posted by hylandky

hey, been doing alot of research on anavar,winstrol and d-bol, but everythings so scattered so im just going to post my spacific questions on here. i know d-bol is the best bulking steriod, and winstrol /anavar are for cutting, id like to put on around 10-15lbs of muscle or so but im worried about acne, on just 1, 6 week cycle on any of these what kind of results would be normal ,working out 5 times a week hard/decent diet. and also what kind of acne are you looking at if you were say prone to it in the past on these?

I like using a high quality anavar like pureanavr..only need 40mg of the stuff.

But for acne, there is a supplement called acnetame that is awesome to use.

Yeah, vars awesome if u can afford it. You keep all ur gains when u get off it, and i find it makes my muscles real dense and solid. It really brings out the striations in the muscle fibers. I still think its more practical for female bodybuilders who want to stay femanine

yeah i was on acutane when i was younger , i dont think your supose to use acutane more then once in ur life i dont think?...stats are: weight-155lbs height-5'9" age 23, bench:210lbs, so var doesnt work very well at all for putting any mass on at all? im already pretty ripped so all i really want would be like 10 lbs....id love to do 6 weeks of dbol just the acne thing is why im not so sure.

anavar will put on some gains yes.

3 to 4 lbs of solid mass.

Add Test

10-15 lbs of muscle? Test Enanthate 500mg/wk for 10-12 weeks, and a good PCT.

Originally Posted by theryano

Add Test

Definitely 100mg if you're going with the winny orally. I've used winny twice, once orally @ 100mg a day (drinking) and @ 50 ed injecting and I'm gonna have to recommend doin the shots.
I just started taking anavar today for the first time @ 60mg hoping it will help my diet out a little I gotta say I do feel "something " lol

first cycle i would rec 500mg ew of GP testE or cyp for 12 weeks WITH maybe 30-40mg dbol for 6 weeks.

dont get into oral only cycles please!

Definitely run at least 500mg test

in an ideal cycle i agree that a test needs to be run.

but i know so many people that try dbol only cycles....

its not recommended but doable...

proceed at own risk i'll say.

im not interested in injectable test at this point, i know it works good and is relativly safe, but causes the most sevre acne doesnt it? im not looking to be a body builder just lookin to get a little more tail in the summer time haha

if u dont want sides than dont do gear bro.

dbol will give u acne and make it nearly impossible to get great cardio done. (in my experiences)

stick with anavar for 6 weeks...

i do not recommend an oral only cycle for ur first but i think u will notice strength, and some gains from a good dosing of anavar run for 6 weeks

you wont even shut down that hard. make sure you have clomid for pct.

yeah i realize if i want to go on gear sides are inevidable, just want to minimize as much as possible, leaning towards anavar right now just try it out, nothing to loose i guess, anavar can convert to estrogen normally?

Originally Posted by hylandky

yeah i realize if i want to go on gear sides are inevidable, just want to minimize as much as possible, leaning towards anavar right now just try it out, nothing to loose i guess, anavar can convert to estrogen normally?

Bro, you weigh only 155? You are going to need more than Anavar...

You stated earlier that you wanted to put on 10-15lbs, yes? Well, Anavar ain't going to do that for you in 8 weeks. My advice...start eating dude.

Originally Posted by hylandky

im not interested in injectable test at this point, i know it works good and is relativly safe, but causes the most sevre acne doesnt it? im not looking to be a body builder just lookin to get a little more tail in the summer time haha

If you don't add Test to your cycle - you might not be getting ANY tail.

Your call.

Me and a lot of other PowerLifters like var, because we can stay in our weight class, but gain a lot of strength. Depends on ur goals though.

I question your choices when you could run something like Epi of DMZ with less sides and greater gains. Sure you will jhabe to run support Supps but you will on gear as well; these are a lot cheaper and easy to get.

Originally Posted by GMO

10-15 lbs of muscle? Test Enanthate 500mg/wk for 10-12 weeks, and a good PCT.

since i was thinking this since i read the original post and he was the first to say it...ill quote thise guy. for what u want id do the test enanthate 500mg/wk as mentioned above. with an ai like aromasin or adex which will control the acne to a certain degree. if u are prone to acne u have to understand there will be a certain degree of it with the use of any aas esp dbol. i wouldnt rec doing an oral cycle only. to me that just shows inexperience. to get the gains u want in 6 weeks dbol is the only oral with anadrol which u didnt mention that i think will give u 10 15lbs. also as mentioned before most will be water and u will lose it. i would however consider doing four weeks of dbol with the test e. maybe 30-50 mg a day. i personally have never done more than 30 and have had good results but know lots of guys that complain of bad headaches at 50mg/day. everyone is diff though. make sure u have ur pct planned out before hand and consider using hcg during the cycle with ur test.

a six week dbol only cycle is jsut dirty weight to me. a temp fix and i think u will be disappointed in the end esp when all the bloat goes away and so does ur strength and weight gains. winny only wont do the 10-15lbs of weight gain. and anavar i personally dont do. but i know lots of ppl that do and they consider mild ( hear a lot of ppl call it a B@#ch steroid) they usually do it as a bridge to pct.

Originally Posted by oufinny

I question your choices when you could run something like Epi of DMZ with less sides and greater gains. Sure you will jhabe to run support Supps but you will on gear as well; these are a lot cheaper and easy to get.

what is epi?

Control estrogen and grab some acnetame if you are worried about acne. Diets high is sat fat and sugars will give you more acne as well.