Thread: advice

age, height, bf, first cycle?

45 yo
6'2"
around 8% body fat
2nd cycle

have always had hard time gaining weight .
have lifted regularly for many years now .
play alot of basketball but going to cut that out .

Basketball is great cardio - you should keep trying to play somewhat even if you're on aas and in the gym more. 8% BF is very lean. Single ester tests such as Test Enathate or Cypionate are dosed at 500mg per week. Some take it one shot every 7 days and others take it two shots a week every 3 days or so. Deca is particularly liked by users of middle age such as yourself (no offense) and its dose should be about half as much as the Test or even a little more. Therefore, 300mg EW of the Deca should suffice. D-bol is a good kickstart to virtually any cycle while you wait a few weeks for the oil-based injectables. You can dose the D-bol in the range of 30-40mg ED for a good 4 weeks. Depending how sensitive you are, you'll want to keep an AI on hand to take during cycle in order to avoid estrogenic sides such as sensitive nipples aka gyno. Arimidex is popular for this purpose typically taken 0.5mg EOD. Then, stop the Deca two weeks before you stop the Test. Two weeks after your last shot of test, you will want to start your PCT. Go with Clomid 100mg ED for Week 1. 75mg ED Week 2 and 50mg ED Weeks 3 & 4. You will get mass from this cycle. Cycle should be Deca Weeks 1 -10, Test Weeks 1 -12 and Dbol Weeks 1-4. Strength should improve dramatically, and mass will probably yield nearly 20lbs. Of course, your protein intake should be no less than 1.5grams per lb of body weight. Maybe even 2grams per lb.

x1

Thanks for the info bro !
Let you know how it works out .

good post big bird u know ur stuff. but i would recommend as his 2nd cycle, to leave out the dbol. hes only looking for 15 lbs, and with that cycle he will certainly gain more than that which i dont think is healthy for a man his age even as active as he is. not that he is old but rapid weight gain at any age just isnt good on the heart. why not go with a test/deca cycle(same dosages) as u recommended. or even a test/dbol cycle. would get him more than what he is looking for. i just believe 3 compounds is a little much for someone with only one cycle under his belt, just not necessary imo

Originally Posted by BigBird

Basketball is great cardio - you should keep trying to play somewhat even if you're on aas and in the gym more. 8% BF is very lean. Single ester tests such as Test Enathate or Cypionate are dosed at 500mg per week. Some take it one shot every 7 days and others take it two shots a week every 3 days or so. Deca is particularly liked by users of middle age such as yourself (no offense) and its dose should be about half as much as the Test or even a little more. Therefore, 300mg EW of the Deca should suffice. D-bol is a good kickstart to virtually any cycle while you wait a few weeks for the oil-based injectables. You can dose the D-bol in the range of 30-40mg ED for a good 4 weeks. Depending how sensitive you are, you'll want to keep an AI on hand to take during cycle in order to avoid estrogenic sides such as sensitive nipples aka gyno. Arimidex is popular for this purpose typically taken 0.5mg EOD. Then, stop the Deca two weeks before you stop the Test. Two weeks after your last shot of test, you will want to start your PCT. Go with Clomid 100mg ED for Week 1. 75mg ED Week 2 and 50mg ED Weeks 3 & 4. You will get mass from this cycle. Cycle should be Deca Weeks 1 -10, Test Weeks 1 -12 and Dbol Weeks 1-4. Strength should improve dramatically, and mass will probably yield nearly 20lbs. Of course, your protein intake should be no less than 1.5grams per lb of body weight. Maybe even 2grams per lb.

im on the same cycle currently as you and i am running it exactly as stated above except i use aromasin as an ai instead of adex. today marks week 4 and im starting to get some good results. 6 weeks of deca left and 8 weeks of test. forgot to mention im also taking hcg which wasnt mentioned but i do recommend.

Originally Posted by BigBird

Basketball is great cardio - you should keep trying to play somewhat even if you're on aas and in the gym more. 8% BF is very lean. Single ester tests such as Test Enathate or Cypionate are dosed at 500mg per week. Some take it one shot every 7 days and others take it two shots a week every 3 days or so. Deca is particularly liked by users of middle age such as yourself (no offense) and its dose should be about half as much as the Test or even a little more. Therefore, 300mg EW of the Deca should suffice. D-bol is a good kickstart to virtually any cycle while you wait a few weeks for the oil-based injectables. You can dose the D-bol in the range of 30-40mg ED for a good 4 weeks. Depending how sensitive you are, you'll want to keep an AI on hand to take during cycle in order to avoid estrogenic sides such as sensitive nipples aka gyno. Arimidex is popular for this purpose typically taken 0.5mg EOD. Then, stop the Deca two weeks before you stop the Test. Two weeks after your last shot of test, you will want to start your PCT. Go with Clomid 100mg ED for Week 1. 75mg ED Week 2 and 50mg ED Weeks 3 & 4. You will get mass from this cycle. Cycle should be Deca Weeks 1 -10, Test Weeks 1 -12 and Dbol Weeks 1-4. Strength should improve dramatically, and mass will probably yield nearly 20lbs. Of course, your protein intake should be no less than 1.5grams per lb of body weight. Maybe even 2grams per lb.

Well said BigBird...I'll second this. You are going to love the results of this cycle if your diet and training is dialed in. I would definitely do a 4 week d-bol kicker as BigBird recommended since this is your second cycle.

Originally Posted by GMO

Well said BigBird...I'll second this. You are going to love the results of this cycle if your diet and training is dialed in. I would definitely do a 4 week d-bol kicker as BigBird recommended since this is your second cycle.

Now that I'm thinking about it more, due to your low BF%, it might be interesting for you to consider running some Anavar during the last 5-6 weeks of your cycle. Decent stregnth increases, a little weight increase and it should take your vascularity and enhance it even more. Anavar could and probably would be very beneficial due to OP's favorable genetics. So could Winny but sides might be a little harsher plus probably not a good idea to run two different toxic orals in same cycle. I think adding the 'Var in such a way to the previous laid out cycle will definately yield mass, strength and a further ripped physique.