Thread: epistane questions...

Originally Posted by hylandky

need some info on epistane from people who have tried it....what kind of gains are normal to see? short term side effects? strength gains? where can i get this stuff?

I ran Epistane twice. First time I gained about 11 pounds in 4 weeks. Strength gains were pretty good. Gained about 25 pounds on my bench. No sides really. I ran Anabolic innovations cycle support for PCT. Second time I ran I ran it for 6 weeks I only gained 5 pounds but strength gains were still good. Most of the gains were from massive eating. Epistane is designed as an anti estrogen but is also used for cutting. Not very often used for bulking but like I said it all depends on how you eat. First cycle I ran 20/30/30/40. Second cycle I ran 30/30/40/50/50/60. Honestly if I had it do over again I would have went straight to real gear. Your receptors are fresh and you would get wayy more out of it. Just my opinion bro.

It's illegal now....caused my bp to skyrocket.

hmm these guys sumed it up pretty well.guess I got to this one too late

so like acne/hairloss, lathagy stuff like that not much of a problem? and im from canada so wherre can i buy this stuff?

Originally Posted by hylandky

so like acne/hairloss, lathagy stuff like that not much of a problem? and im from canada so wherre can i buy this stuff?

no you should not experience any acne/hair loss, or lathargy unless you run it at a ridiculous dose which would be stupid. It is a 17a oral so it is pretty harsh on the liver. Get some milk thistle and Anabolic innovations cycle support for while your on it and anabolic innovations post cycle support for pct. These are just precautionary but I would run them if I was you.

ok , is ibe epistane good stuff?....and why should you need a pct? most stuff iv read says its ann anit estrogen and doesnt shut your natural test levels down...maybe thats a stupid question but whats the answer? haha

Originally Posted by hylandky

ok , is ibe epistane good stuff?....and why should you need a pct? most stuff iv read says its ann anit estrogen and doesnt shut your natural test levels down...maybe thats a stupid question but whats the answer? haha

you dont need it and as I said before its not just an anti estrogen its a steroid so me personally, I would run the post cycle support. Were not talking about a real PCT like clomid and nolva or something. Its up to you bro

ok so you dont need something as power as nolvadex, thats easy then,ill run somthing just to be safe

Originally Posted by hylandky

ok so you dont need something as power as nolvadex, thats easy then,ill run somthing just to be safe

yeah anabolic innovations post cycle support worked well for me

Epi WILL shut you down and DOES need a well thought out PCT; just because you feel better does not mean you are working at full strength. You could possibly get away with the PP testosterone recovery stack but that to me is bare minimum. I would get you some Nolva or Clomid, your choice and make sure to run a low dose for 4 weeks. I am going to do EpiStrong for 5 weeks and will be running Nolva at 20/20/10/10 along with AI Post Cycle Support and Phytoserms. Is it overkill, probably but I have not had kids yet and want them to happen without issue when the time comes. Be cheap and pay the price later in life, it's your choice.

yeah man I recovered fine with just the post cycle support and some tribulus but it definatley wont hurt for the kid to run nolva after. He most likely does not have access to it though

no i think i can get nolva, ill get it to be sure, anyone know how m1t's compare to epistane? i did a bottle of m1t's before and wasnt impressed...too many bad sides for minamal gains wich most iv lost since then i think