Adding orals to 3rd cycle...advice?

**returnofthdragon** · 01-20-2011, 06:49 PM

I have a blend of tren e, test, and EQ 200mg each i will be taking in a cycle this spring. I plan on adding 250/mg per week of test to it. I'm going on a long vacation this summer and plan in being in the best shape ever when i go. This will be my 3rd cycle. I only have two vials of the blend and, it isn't available right now for more. I wanted to run 2-5 weeks longer than the blends will hold up and use some orals. I have anavar and winny. Any suggestions on when/how I should use them. I'm not sold on use both or even either of them, but I like what I hear about both of them and would like to add a little. I'm looking for a cutting or lean bulk cycle. I had thought about:

1-14 test 250/week
1-5 anavar
4-14 blend 600/week
10-14 winny

Is that a bad choice? What could I do better? I know it's a little long, but this vacation is what has got me super motivated and I want a good run up to it.

**SUPERFLY1234** · 01-20-2011, 07:28 PM

why not run var for 14 weeks, and start with 500mg of test.

**returnofthdragon** · 01-20-2011, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234

why not run var for 14 weeks, and start with 500mg of test.

I actually wrote that wrong, and thought i would go with 500 test until I start the blend. I don't want to buy that much var until I've had a chance to try it and see how it works for me. It costs too much for me to get 14 weeks worth the first shot. You never know what happens, like my first cycle where I found out aromasin makes me break out in itchy hives.

**fredlabrute** · 01-21-2011, 09:09 AM

Just 5 wks between the use of both orals,that's too short,not enough time for the liver to recover...Would use both compound at the end of cycle for the 6 last weeks for some dramatic results!!!

**BigBird** · 01-21-2011, 09:36 AM

The good thing about 'Var is that it's not 17a-a so stress on liver is minimal to nil. Oral winny however is another story. So it would seem the 5 weeks between a non-toxic oral and a toxic oral should suffice.

**BigBlackGuy** · 01-21-2011, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by BigBird

The good thing about 'Var is that it's not 17a-a so stress on liver is minimal to nil. Oral winny however is another story. So it would seem the 5 weeks between a non-toxic oral and a toxic oral should suffice.

Anavar isn't liver toxic? Or simply isn't AS liver toxic as certain other orals (winny/dbol/anadrol)?

**BigBird** · 01-21-2011, 01:26 PM

It's considered non-toxic hence it's ok to take high doses 80-100mg ED for an extended period of time, even more than 8 weeks without an increase of liver values. There is no recovery per se that your liver needs when you stop taking 'Var.

**fredlabrute** · 01-21-2011, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by BigBird

The good thing about 'Var is that it's not 17a-a so stress on liver is minimal to nil. Oral winny however is another story. So it would seem the 5 weeks between a non-toxic oral and a toxic oral should suffice.

Anavar or Oxandrolone is considered to be a mild steroid,17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-2-oxa-5a-androsten-3-one is an oral that has the 17a-a chemical structure.It is a mild oral but there isn't anything like a non-toxic oral, and even if it doesn't happen often than someone experienced side effects with this one,it does influence liver enzymes!!!

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