Thread: Safest cycle options?

Originally Posted by DaBeast25

I started getting gyno, was squeezing little amounts of fluid out of my nips

WTF. 'Mirin your determination, but that definitely would have been my last cycle.

red face... were u drinking enuff water?

why did u do more than a gram a week?

what r ur stats? how many cycles have u run in the past?

You're using a lot of product.

I don't know your history but I would roll with the tried-and-true, good old fashion 500/week Test E.

Again, not knowing much about you this is only me providing a "safe" cycle for you. It sounds to me like you have prior experience but knowing that you have had problems before, I'd get back to basics.

Do 500mg of E for 6-8 weeks and bump it up from there. And DON'T start a cycle without having EVERY possible type of PCT and on cycle treatment remedy available from day ONE.

Good luck! Stay small, get big!

I don't have as much experience as most , but I stick with Test .. 750 mgs works for me . I have never gone higher . I like EQ .. I am still experimenting with it but I like 400 mgs a week . I will try more . Some people say they get anxiety from it . I also feel more energetic with EQ.
I have done Anavar but only about 50 mgs a day and I have no idea if it was good quality but I do know that it was expensive .. if it was cheaper I would like to try it at 100 mgs a day . For me .. I will stick with Test , EQ and anavar if I can get it cheap . These are all good lean mass compounds . Hair loss is also a concern of mine and is another reason why I use the above .. what works for some does not work for all .

Originally Posted by colorado

You're using a lot of product.

I don't know your history but I would roll with the tried-and-true, good old fashion 500/week Test E.

Again, not knowing much about you this is only me providing a "safe" cycle for you. It sounds to me like you have prior experience but knowing that you have had problems before, I'd get back to basics.

Do 500mg of E for 6-8 weeks and bump it up from there. And DON'T start a cycle without having EVERY possible type of PCT and on cycle treatment remedy available from day ONE.

Good luck! Stay small, get big!

Yep , thats the way to start

The lactation sounds like gyno from a 19nor. Maybe it was tren in the vial. If you have the right AI's and dont over-dose your stuff youll be fine.

I think deca would help you with the joint issues. In your case make sure it's at a 2:1 ratio with test. ie.. 250deca 500test

Thanks for the replies, as mentioned the cycle was ran half-hazardly and b/c I wasn't trusting one of my vials I was EITHER doing a hell of a lot of test OR like 700-800 mg of test with an unknown dose of tren.

SloppyJ, That what got my thinking it must have been actual tren which I wanted nothing to do with and that's what's making me want to stay far away from the 19-nors.

I'm 6' 200lb certainly not a monster but I do stay lean. The last cycle is FAR from typical for me..before that I ran my first "true" cycle Test/Deca 500/300 which was awesome. I didn't have the initial intention of doing as much as I did I just let myself get out of control with it and certainly learned my lesson. I always drink a lot of water >1 gallon/day easily.

I'm looking to keep things moderate and I'm definitely staying at the lower end of the dosage spectrum since I experienced first hand the point od diminishing retruns last time. I'm just thinking of what I can add to help with collagen. Maybe I will go with Test and Eq 400/400. Still trying to figure it out.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

The lactation sounds like gyno from a 19nor. Maybe it was tren in the vial. If you have the right AI's and dont over-dose your stuff youll be fine.

I think deca would help you with the joint issues. In your case make sure it's at a 2:1 ratio with test. ie.. 250deca 500test

This is right on point^^^

Originally Posted by GMO

This is right on point^^^

ehhhhh ohhhhhh


I did something right.

Thank you for that there reputation.

Originally Posted by maxbrokeneck

WTF. 'Mirin your determination, but that definitely would have been my last cycle.

LOL I was thinking the same thing

I would suggest trying NPP. Same collegen/joint benefits of Deca in a faster ester. That way if you don't like how the movie is turning out, you can bail... Start with 100mg eod to assess yourself

400-500 mg of Test and 400 mg of primo is prob one of the safest cycles you'll ever run. Most users report NO sides on primo which amazes me but I've heard this from a variety of experienced users. If you're looking for lean moderate gains, that cycle would be the way to go. If your body doesn't respond well or you get significant sides from test, you can even run a trt dose of around 250 mg of test with 400 mg of primo.

I find it doubtful a source would substitute tren for test just because of the sheer costs of the two items. Tren in most cases is more expensive than test. Anyways, I hope that helps. Good luck.

Roughneck_91, I thought about it but I still don't know if I want to put it in me even with the short ester and I'd rather not pin eod again all cycle.

rippedgolfer, I have been considering both scenarios you mentioned to be on the safest side. we'll see...

thanks for the suggestions

Originally Posted by maxbrokeneck

WTF. 'Mirin your determination, but that definitely would have been my last cycle.

I just threw up in my mouth.

The EQ is an awesome addition to the stack. I'm in Week 11 and loving it. 500-600mg EW and have about 8 more weeks of it. I don't have the red faced rudolph syndrome you're referring to but everybody reacts differently I guess. You'll love the vascularity. And you'll feel like a race horse! lol, oh yeah, the constant hunger is a real annoyance but no complaints other than that.

I'm actually thinking of running Test E @300/wk & Primo @ 400/wk for 10 weeks now. I'm vascular enough without compound that are known for pronounced vascularity, lol...it start to look a little like I was on drugs ;-)