Thread: Critique me PLEASE!!!

seems thurough & well thought out. good luck.

bro run aromasin from day 1. 12.5mg EOD. trust me

I'm assuming you're saying to run aromasin EoD vs. running adex EoD, Have you got a reason for this? Everyone I've talked to has recommended the Adex rather than the Aromasin. However I'm interested in hearing your opinion.

You seem to have done your homework. For a 1st cycle, some will advocate using 500mg EW of longer ester single blend test such as Cyp or Enanthate but pinning Sustanon EOD is the way to go in order to maximize the potential of its short and long esters. The 'drol is a trip as I've kickstarted a cycle with 4 weeks of 'drol back in 1996. Since I'm on the short side (5'8) the results were an immediate explosion of mass with Arnold-type pecs. However, you probably don't need 100mg. 50mg ED should do the trick.

i think running hcg 1000iu a week is high. you might desensitize your balls from making t. i think running 500iu a week is better. but everything else looks good

Forgot to mention that my bodyfat % is in between, 10-12% according to my bathroom scale/bodyfat calculator. Kind of curious about the accuracy of this type of scale as well if any of you use one. I know if you use it after you've had a shower, or had shoes, and socks on for a while, it is way out of whack. However the rest of the time it is pretty damn consistent.

Originally Posted by Cal0777

Forgot to mention that my bodyfat % is in between, 10-12% according to my bathroom scale/bodyfat calculator. Kind of curious about the accuracy of this type of scale as well if any of you use one. I know if you use it after you've had a shower, or had shoes, and socks on for a while, it is way out of whack. However the rest of the time it is pretty damn consistent.

fron my understanding the scales that measue bf are WAY more accurate that the handheld devices that measure it.

Yeah, my doctor kinda advocated his opinion on the 100mg dose of Adrol as well, which is why I'm looking for opinions. As for the HCG it seems more ppl tend to advise 1000iu a week, than they do 500iu a week, nothing is written in stone yet (although it is pretty damn close). Myself, was thinking of pinning 2x 300iu a week. However, the fact that the majority of posts, opinions suggest 1000iu a week is the norm for this type of cycle. I'd hate to go against all of the great advice I've read, and been given over a few opinions, with no explanation as to why. If you'd care to elaborate, I'd certainly listen to your reasoning.

100mg of drol is way overkill, I have no experience with it but that seems like a dose that a pro would take, 50 is supposed to blow you up...also running an AI during PCT is pointless, the purpose of an AI is to stop test from converting to estrogen, your test is low in PCT hence nothing that would convert to estrogen.

Originally Posted by bccs

100mg of drol is way overkill

Not really. Depends on his bodyweight, which i dont believe he mentioned in his posts.

Evening body weight right now is right around 227lbs. Mornings I can be down around 220lbs, if my bodyfat scale is accurate, I'm sitting around 10-12%.
As for the AI during PCT........ This is the stuff that makes me laugh, everyone throws their opinion out there like it is an exact science. However, from what I've read, and learned. There is nothing exact about this science.
You say no AI during PCT, and 10 others say different.

Psych..... Not really, the contradictions in peoples opinions, is what confuses everyone so badly.

The only thing I see that you could change is with the clomid.
You could do 200mgs the first two days, then 100mgs for the remainder of that week.
You could go down to 75mgs for a wk and then finish with you'r 50mgs.
I see no need for the aromasin personally.
As for the HCG you may have the sweet spot there with what you said about 300iu's.2x wkly.
I personally use 250iu's 2 x's wkly and it works just fine for me.
However....some of my pals advocate 500iu's 2x wkly.
IMO I just do enough to where it works but not to much as to desensitize the lydig.
Also I think it's real smart of you to have blood work drawn. If more people thought things out as well as you have there would be a lot less people with problems.
Big reps to ya Man. Good luck

Originally Posted by Cal0777

I'm assuming you're saying to run aromasin EoD vs. running adex EoD, Have you got a reason for this? Everyone I've talked to has recommended the Adex rather than the Aromasin. However I'm interested in hearing your opinion.

I'm running Aromasin (Exemestane) at 12.5mg ED. Why would you run it EOD??

Aromasin will block around 85% of estrogen while adex will only block around 50% if my understanding is correct. IMO aromasin is the way to go.

Originally Posted by Cal0777

Well everything has finally arrived, and this is what I've decided to go with.
Feel free to critique it if you find any flaws.
(All AAS is GP)

Week 1&6 25mg anadrol x2 morning & evening total of 50mg ED
Weeks 2-5 50mg anadrol x2 morning & evening total of 100mg ED
Weeks 1-16 GP sustaplex 270 EoD, ALLMAX TRIBX90 x2 ED, Anabolic Innovation Life Support x2 ED, PrimaForce Insopro-R x3 ED, ALLMAX Leucine x2 ED, Liv 52 x2 ED, Adex .5mg EoD, HCG 500iu x2 EW total of 1000iu a week, Last sustaplex injection I will also use HCG 1500iu. I have plenty of Aromasin, Clomid, and Nolva on standby in case of any complications. My diet has been cleaned up to 5000 calories a day, and around 450g of protein a day, watched my diet consistently, I seem to gain moderately @ 4000 calories a day. Also I had my doctor (who is aware of my plans) prescribe me 150 mg of Seroquel ED for a serotonin boost, mood stabilizer, and sleep aid. As well as I will be using Muscle Pharms Bullet Proof every evening before bed.

PCT
Weeks 1-3 Clomid 50mg x2 ed, and aromasin x 25mg ed
Week 4 Clomid 50mg ed, and Aromasin x 12.5 ed
Weeks 1-6 ALLMAX TRIBX90 x2 ED, Anabolic Innovation Post Cycle Support x2 ED, PrimaForce Insopro-R x3 ED, ALLMAX Leucine x2 ED, Liv 52 x2 ED, 150mg Seroquel before bed, Muscle Pharms Bullet Proof before bed.

Also my family doctor who I've had since the early 90's wants to see me for blood work every week. He seems to be quite easy to talk to about this, and seems to be quite up to date on AAS, only thing he has a problem with is the non HG AAS. I'm sure he has a great deal of experience with AAS as he was a navy dr. until 91 when he retired from the navy, and started his own practice. The Dr. thing has just been a new development in the last 2 weeks, as I spoke to my father about my intentions, and he told me to talk to our Dr. as he was high school buddies with him, and was well aware of his military career.

Well this is where my research has taken me over the last 6 months, I'm totally stoked about beginning this cycle, however at the same time I'm nervous as hell.
If there is anything at all that I've missed please let me know, and I will keep everyone up to date as to my progress throughout this cycle.

That is a VERY heavy dose of Seroquel. Have you taken this as a sleep aid before (also used for schizophrenia)? If not, you might want to try 25mg first. Otherwise you’ll sleep for 10 hours and will be very foggy in the morning. Be carful!

Originally Posted by Cal0777

Yeah, my doctor kinda advocated his opinion on the 100mg dose of Adrol as well, which is why I'm looking for opinions. As for the HCG it seems more ppl tend to advise 1000iu a week, than they do 500iu a week, nothing is written in stone yet (although it is pretty damn close). Myself, was thinking of pinning 2x 300iu a week. However, the fact that the majority of posts, opinions suggest 1000iu a week is the norm for this type of cycle. I'd hate to go against all of the great advice I've read, and been given over a few opinions, with no explanation as to why. If you'd care to elaborate, I'd certainly listen to your reasoning.

Very thought out cycle, this article helps explain HCG, and its proper use.

HCG Unraveled

Yeah, I'm currently on 100mg of seroquel as a sleep aid, Dr. used to have me on 60mg of temazepam, but that wasn't keeping me down for anymore than 4 hours, and he didn't want to raise it anymore due to it's addictive properties. So we decided to go with seroquel after several months of getting the proper dose established. I now get a full 8 hours of rest most nights.

Originally Posted by Runner22

That is a VERY heavy dose of Seroquel. Have you taken this as a sleep aid before (also used for schizophrenia)? If not, you might want to try 25mg first. Otherwise you’ll sleep for 10 hours and will be very foggy in the morning. Be carful!

It depends, I know of cases where 800mgs are prescribed for bipolar disorder.

Originally Posted by Cal0777

Yeah, I'm currently on 100mg of seroquel as a sleep aid, Dr. used to have me on 60mg of temazepam, but that wasn't keeping me down for anymore than 4 hours, and he didn't want to raise it anymore due to it's addictive properties. So we decided to go with seroquel after several months of getting the proper dose established. I now get a full 8 hours of rest most nights.

Just be aware of its effects on blood glucose levels, which I am sure your doctor is aware of.

Yes, I certainly am. My wife is bi-polar, and is on a high dose of seroquel. We are most certainly aware of the side effects of seroquel

Well first week has gone very well, got a lil hot & horny the first night, and hit both quads with a cc of sustanon. Getting what I would describe as mild cramps at the injection sites, nothing really to complain about. Decided to go with adex every 3rd day @.5mg. So now I'm plagued with the choice of sticking with the 50mg of A-Drol a day, or bumping it up to either 100mg, or perhaps even 75mg. Feeling pretty good, gains are evident already, according to my bathroom scale water retention isn't an issue yet, no bloating, or any other sides as of yet. Interested in what opinions anyone has on bumping the A-Drol, or leaving it @50mg.

Originally Posted by Cal0777

Yeah, I'm currently on 100mg of seroquel as a sleep aid, Dr. used to have me on 60mg of temazepam, but that wasn't keeping me down for anymore than 4 hours, and he didn't want to raise it anymore due to it's addictive properties. So we decided to go with seroquel after several months of getting the proper dose established. I now get a full 8 hours of rest most nights.

I also use seroquel, 400mg ED...200mg before bed. Also take rozerem as well and I usually get a good nights sleep. Seroquel makes for an excellent sleeping tool.



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Yes, I certainly agree seroquel is a very useful tool for a sleep aid, the extra serotonin isn't such a bad thing either. As of yet I have no issues at all with sleep, always get a good night of restful sleep.

Originally Posted by bknoxx

Adex works well also u need some estrogen or you wont grow as well from wht ive read either work just fine depends on the compounds you run

That's why I use adex over aromasin...aromasin is stronger and will chew more away at your gains than adex will. But if you are really prone to gyno, I would go with aromasin.



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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

That's why I use adex over aromasin...aromasin is stronger and will chew more away at your gains than adex will. But if you are really prone to gyno, I would go with aromasin.



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i was gonna edit and add a few more points but deleted it doh!! im a dork thx Vic

Originally Posted by Cal0777

Yes, I certainly agree seroquel is a very useful tool for a sleep aid, the extra serotonin isn't such a bad thing either. As of yet I have no issues at all with sleep, always get a good night of restful sleep.

Yes, Seroquel is good s**t. I take 150mg at bedtime, and I'm out for 8 hours no problem. Even when running Tren.

Well I will be honest, I'm glad to see others make use of this as well. Kinda thought I may be taking things a bit too far with research, and different compounds to make this cycle go a lot easier, and be able to keep all the gains possible. However, now I don't feel as though I've micro-managed everything to death. Thanks guys for the reassurance!
However, I'm still looking for a few opinions as to whether I should bump the A-Drol to 75mg, or 100mg. After the first week, or remain @ 50mg. Sadly enough, I've got the Tim Taylor attitude at the moment, perhaps I need some sound advice to keep me in check....... LOL

Originally Posted by Cal0777

Well I will be honest, I'm glad to see others make use of this as well. Kinda thought I may be taking things a bit too far with research, and different compounds to make this cycle go a lot easier, and be able to keep all the gains possible. However, now I don't feel as though I've micro-managed everything to death. Thanks guys for the reassurance!
However, I'm still looking for a few opinions as to whether I should bump the A-Drol to 75mg, or 100mg. After the first week, or remain @ 50mg. Sadly enough, I've got the Tim Taylor attitude at the moment, perhaps I need some sound advice to keep me in check....... LOL

Have you run drol before??



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No this is my first cycle ever.