Gp mhn????????

**Vlad5** · 01-25-2011, 03:37 PM

Anyone have any experience on it? Don't alot of research and can't find much on it. Sounds great though.

**Vlad5** · 01-25-2011, 06:29 PM

bump, anyone?

**Vick** · 04-03-2011, 08:04 PM

bump must be no good

**TGB1987** · 04-03-2011, 09:16 PM

Not a lot of reviews out there on this compound. Maybe you should try it and let us know how it goes.

**mich29** · 04-03-2011, 09:34 PM

great for strength and fat loss,you mean mohn correct?

**Vick** · 04-04-2011, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by mich29

great for strength and fat loss,you mean mohn correct?

I mean this Untitled Page

**SFW** · 04-04-2011, 08:53 AM

I have been interested in it as well for some time.

Central Nervous System (CNS) stimulation, not in a jittery ephedrine type feeling but you should be able to sleep less and still feel refreshed upon waking

Sounds good to me!!

**bombboogie** · 04-04-2011, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by mich29

great for strength and fat loss,you mean mohn correct?

Originally Posted by Vick

I mean this Untitled Page

same. just different way of calling it

**djm6464** · 04-04-2011, 09:00 AM

mohn was m4ohn pre-ban '04, seems to be very 'var-esque' as in at a decent dose 25-30mg ed for 6wks, a user can see good strength, hardening, recomping type effects, and some lean mass, but nothing crazy, not ver heptoxic either....its a nor so id treat it as one

iv seen a few reviews/logs, and when it was dosed higher than advertised it was very good.....seems like a better version of epistane which imo was better mg for mg than winny, and pretty damn close to var 70-80mg)

id have grabbed some up by now, but up north there's none dom wise

itd fit nicely at the end of a cycle imo

**djm6464** · 04-04-2011, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by mich29

great for strength and fat loss,you mean mohn correct?

i highly doubt it,
a) aggression increased in user accounts, but strength wasnt anything to shout about
b)hardening yes, but diet is responsible for fat loss, if you are chubby stuff like mohn, var, winny, are a waste imo

**Vick** · 04-04-2011, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by mich29

great for strength and fat loss,you mean mohn correct?

Originally Posted by bombboogie

same. just different way of calling it

Originally Posted by djm6464

i highly doubt it,
a) aggression increased in user accounts, but strength wasnt anything to shout about
b)hardening yes, but diet is responsible for fat loss, if you are chubby stuff like mohn, var, winny, are a waste imo

So what is it comparable to? Do the gains stick? Mild on liver? Strength and fat loss like Anavar?

Since it's a nandrolone derivative like Cheque drops I'm skeptical.

**Vick** · 04-04-2011, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by djm6464

mohn was m4ohn pre-ban '04, seems to be very 'var-esque' as in at a decent dose 25-30mg ed for 6wks, a user can see good strength, hardening, recomping type effects, and some lean mass, but nothing crazy, not ver heptoxic either....its a nor so id treat it as one

iv seen a few reviews/logs, and when it was dosed higher than advertised it was very good.....seems like a better version of epistane which imo was better mg for mg than winny, and pretty damn close to var 70-80mg)

id have grabbed some up by now, but up north there's none dom wise

itd fit nicely at the end of a cycle imo

It's right here for $32 50x5mg (misspelled HMN) Buy geneza steroids and anabolics on line

**bombboogie** · 04-04-2011, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Vick

So what is it comparable to? Do the gains stick? Mild on liver? Strength and fat loss like Anavar?

Since it's a nandrolone derivative like Cheque drops I'm skeptical.

Everyone that logged it, compared it to var (leaning out, decent strength, etc)

Structurally its "deca" like (but not bloat)

Its methylated, so it may put some strain on the liver, degree is unsure.

**Vick** · 04-04-2011, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by bombboogie

Everyone that logged it, compared it to var (leaning out, decent strength, etc)

Structurally its "deca" like (but not bloat)

Its methylated, so it may put some strain on the liver, degree is unsure.

Thanks

**maxwkw** · 04-04-2011, 09:31 AM

Can you really trust a source that misspells a product?

**Vick** · 04-04-2011, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by maxwkw

Can you really trust a source that misspells a product?

Sometimes people doing big things dont sweat the little things.

**D-Lats** · 04-04-2011, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Vick

Sometimes people doing big things dont sweat the little things.

thats why you are pursuing this crap!

**bombboogie** · 04-04-2011, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by maxwkw

Can you really trust a source that misspells a product?

Its branding.

Like Superdrol/M-Drol/Methyl-Drol XT and so on.

**maxwkw** · 04-04-2011, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by bombboogie

Its branding.

Like Superdrol/M-Drol/Methyl-Drol XT and so on.

I think it's actually just a mistype typing MNH instead of MHN would be more like somebody typing D-BLO instead of D-BOL

(although I'd love to get my hands on some d-blo)

**djm6464** · 04-04-2011, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Vick

It's right here for $32 50x5mg (misspelled HMN) Buy geneza steroids and anabolics on line

i meant domestic, thanks tho (theres no point with the customs here)

**Woodrow1** · 04-04-2011, 10:02 PM

GP's MHN is good. I just seen a review on it. The poster had good results

**mich29** · 04-04-2011, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by djm6464

i highly doubt it,
a) aggression increased in user accounts, but strength wasnt anything to shout about
b)hardening yes, but diet is responsible for fat loss, if you are chubby stuff like mohn, var, winny, are a waste imo

I believe it has to be dosed pretty high to get the strength part out of it.

mohn got a bad rap when it was released due to it being marketed wrong and a few other things that happened. I believe if someone could find a nice dosing protocol this stuff should be a pretty fun ride.

**djm6464** · 04-05-2011, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by mich29

I believe it has to be dosed pretty high to get the strength part out of it.

mohn got a bad rap when it was released due to it being marketed wrong and a few other things that happened. I believe if someone could find a nice dosing protocol this stuff should be a pretty fun ride.

what is your idea of high? and what is your idea of strength?

says 20mg ed on the gp write-up, id go 30mg and more if need be.....also its an adjuvant, i wouldnt run it solo, so that negates the strength comment, needs to be used for what its meant to be, a hardener/cutter, hence the comparisons to var and winny

i dont get the bad wrap part, everything iv seen, which i wish was more tho, has been when dosed well, it was very effective

**djm6464** · 04-05-2011, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Vick

So what is it comparable to? Do the gains stick? Mild on liver? Strength and fat loss like Anavar?

Since it's a nandrolone derivative like Cheque drops I'm skeptical.

seems var like.....not enuff user feedback...too bad cause its interesting stuff

**Vick** · 04-05-2011, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Woodrow1

GP's MHN is good. I just seen a review on it. The poster had good results

link to review?

**Vick** · 04-05-2011, 07:11 PM

How are there no reviews with a 1300/281 anabolic ratio!

**mich29** · 04-06-2011, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by djm6464

what is your idea of high? and what is your idea of strength?

says 20mg ed on the gp write-up, id go 30mg and more if need be.....also its an adjuvant, i wouldnt run it solo, so that negates the strength comment, needs to be used for what its meant to be, a hardener/cutter, hence the comparisons to var and winny

i dont get the bad wrap part, everything iv seen, which i wish was more tho, has been when dosed well, it was very effective

I'd have to go back and look it was in the 100's I believe.a few companies that brought it out were under dosing it yet comparing to m1t I believe.

**Vick** · 04-06-2011, 04:30 PM

My MHN (Methyl Hydroxy nandrolone) Experiences - Page 3

As a chemist, it was MHN's similarities to Turanabol that piqued my interest. I'll try to explain in my own words rather than cut and paste the same old stuff.

Here comes the science bit!

Turanabol is dbol with a polar group (a chlorine atom) at the 4 position, which prevents it from being able to interact with either aromatase or 5a dehydrogenase.
MHN is methyl nandrolone with a polar group at the 4 position (a hydroxy group), which prevents it from being able to interact with either aromatase or 5a dehydrogenase

Hydroxy nandrolone was developed as an improvement on nandrolone. As a general rule, when you methylate a steroid at the 17a position, it becomes orally available, but also becomes a lot more androgenic. For example, methyl testosterone is much harsher than testosterone, M-1T is very different from 1-testosterone, and dianabol is much more androgenic than boldenone.

Hydroxy nandrolone is barely androgenic in the first place, so methylating it makes it much more potent, and more like anavar in character.

When (injected) nandrolone forms a dihydrotestosterone metabolite, that metabolite is much milder than nandrolone itself, so much of nandrolone's anabolic power is lost via this route.
MHN doesn't form a dihydrotestosterone metabolite, or aromatise, so those breakdown routes are closed, and it is rather potent. It's also more resistant to Liver inactivation because its methylated, so it's more likely, milligram for milligram, to do its job at a receptor than plain old nandrolone.

I've noticed increased vascularity and definition from day to day. However, I weighed myself this morning, and have actually gained a couple of lbs. Its not very scientific, but I seem to be losing fat (or at least water) whilst gaining a bit of muscle. This is whilst taking MHN in the 20 to 30mg a day range, on a diet which isn't particularly high on Protein (as I'm so pennyless this week).

I think of Turinabol and MHN as chemical cousins. MHN is to nadrolone what Turinabol is to Boldanone - almost. The base molecule has been 17a methylated, and has a big lump sticking out at the 4 position to stop it from forming either an estrogen or a dihydrotestosterone metabolite

My article for Methyl Hydroxy Nandrolone (M4OHN) was written for the same company that I wrote my Methyl Hydroxy Testosterone (M4OHT) article for. It was also written in 2004 in a period leading up to the banning of prohormones, when manufacturers were bringing out all sorts of new compounds that were either active steroids or precursors to them. Most all of them had never been tested and were able to be created due to the new found access to a book by Julius Vida, a scientist who synthesized every possible modification of male sex steroids and then published them in a book, entitled "Androgens and Anabolic Agents, Chemistry and Pharmacology", in 1969. Although the book had been long out of date, an individual finally was able to find a copy of it and scanned it, converted it into PDF format, and sold it. This, along with the availability of Chinese companies to synthesize almost anything requested, allowed supplement companies to sell steroids that were never manufactured or widely used - and hence, not scheduled - a legal loophole that is still exploited to this day. Although for some reason, both M4OHN and M4OHT were banned by California state law, they were not banned in any other state, and as such, they were manufactured and sold until finally banned by the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004.

Hydroxy Nandrolone, like its counterpart, Hydroxy Testosterone, is a steroid which is quite obscure and not much is written about it in medical literature. Hydroxy Nandrolone was produced commercially in Italy under the name Steranabol. However, it was sold as an injectable product, as opposed to an oral one, with cypionate ester attached. It is chemically known as oxabolone.

Nandrolone is the base steroid of Hydroxy Nandrolone. Nandrolone deconate is a popular anabolic steroid, commonly known as Deca Durabolin. Deca is well known for being a strong anabolic compound, with fewer androgenic properties. This is due to the fact that nandrolone is missing a carbon atom at the 19 position, giving it overall more affinity for the androgen receptor than testosterone. [1] However, unlike Hydroxy Nandrolone, nandrolone can aromatize into estrogen, which is another factor involved in it's strong anabolic effects.

Like Hydroxy Testosterone, Hydroxy Nandrolone also has a hydroxyl group at the 4 position on the molecule. This makes it incapable of interacting with the aromatese and 5 alpha reductase enzymes. However, since regular nandrolone typically reduces into a much weaker androgen, DHN (dihydronandrolone) via 5AR, this would make Hydroxy Nandrolone more androgenic. In the body nandrolone reduces to DHN through the same pathway that testosterone reduces to DHT. But, in this case, DHN is weaker and less androgenic than DHT, which is responsible for most of testosterone's androgenic effects (acne, androgenic alopecia, prostate issues, etc). So, with Hydroxy Nandrolone, we are left with a more potent androgen since it cannot convert through the same pathway. [2]

When we look at the information on Steranabol, we see that it is overall less potent than its parent, nandrolone. [3] Although not structurally similar, Methyl Hydroxy Nandrolone is probably closer in action to another popular steroid, oxandrolone. Oxandrolone, commonly known for its trade name, Anavar, a very mild oral steroid, even though it's a 17-alpha-alkylated (methylated) compound that's based on DHT. Oxandrolone is well known for for it's safety and low potential for HTPA shutdown. It is usually incorporated into cutting or lean mass cycles, as it will not aromatize because of it's DHT base.

Because of it being derived from DHT, oxandrolone can be somewhat androgenic in higher doses, and this will probably not be as pronounced with Hydroxy Nandrolone. This is because the hydroxyl group reduces androgen receptor binding affinity. There is also a question of progesterone related activity with this compound. It is well known that nandrolone and its derivatives can bind to the progesterone receptor. [4] However, it is thought that progesterone requires the presence of estrogen in order to cause gyno. Therefore, those prone to gyno may not want to use Hydroxy Nandrolone with another aromatizing compound like 4AD, while others might simply just use an anti-estrogen, such as tamoxifen citrate (Nolvadex) - a SERM, or an AI like ATD while on a cycle. However, it is unknown what affinity Hydroxy Nandrolone has for the progesterone receptor, so taking precaution is not unwarranted.

With Methyl Hydroxy Nandrolone, or MOHN, we end up with a very interesting compound. Using MOHN, one would expect increases in lean muscle mass, as well as a noticeable increase in strength. Since MOHN doesn’t aromatize, you would not notice water retention, or other estrogenic side effects typically associated with Deca. MOHN would work well during bulking cycles with the addition of 4AD and 1-testosterone or 1,4andro, and probably work even better on cutting cycles with a lower dose of 4AD. MOHN should be well tolerated by people concerned about side effects, and even women. Being a methylated compound, it will increase strain on the liver, so it would be best not to stack it with other methylated substances. As with MOHT, supplements that assist in liver function, such as ALA, NAC and Milk Thistle would be a welcome addition to the stack.

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