HCG on-cycle..when to begin?

**roastchicken** · 01-28-2011, 03:54 AM

If you have 3x5000iu HCG and you intend to use 2x500iu/week this should last 15 weeks...If your running a 16 week cycle using enanthate esters when would the optimum time to include the HCG be?

Would it say work like this :

week 5 - 20 2x500iu

^^this would mean that you would start subQ injections from week five through to week 20 (week 20 being the the time when the enanthate ester would have fully cleared).PCT would be week 21- week 25/26.

Would you be already fairly shut down by the end of week 4?

I intend to use Drol for 1-4, Test E/C 1-16, Tren E 1-16, Mast E 12-16

**Buzzard** · 01-28-2011, 07:59 AM

That's a long run of Tren...

Personally, I'd start the HCG around week 2 or 3. You can skip a week or so between amps (that's what I do). That way you can stretch it out...

**Roughneck_91** · 01-28-2011, 09:19 AM

500ius of HCG is a lot dude. I would go as far as saying it's too much. Cut it down to 2 injections of 250ius a week, and you will find you have plenty of product.

**SilentBob187** · 01-28-2011, 09:46 AM

How To Prepare and Dose HCG

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/pr...reference.html

Seems to be about 2x a week or every 4 days. Starting about 2 weeks in and probably ending about the same time as the last dose of Test.

**Repo** · 01-29-2011, 12:47 AM

This is a heavy cycle so you'll want to do the 1K a week like you plan.

Plus - take one week off after each 5000 vial - then repeat...

However I would also recommend a blasting phase at the end.

You would start the blasting phase the day after your last injection up until 4 days before SERM treatment.

Use one of the following for the blasting phase:

1 - 500iu's every day.
2 - 750iu's every day.
3 - 1,000iu's every other day.
4 - 1,500iu's every other day.

This will seem like a lot for many people but I've seen many debates on this topic and the resource this comes from provides a great deal of detail on the reason why these doses are best.

I would go with his advise over all the hcg discussion and debates - hands down without question.

If you have any questions on these doses I'll try and answer them the best I can ... You could also pm me if you like.

I think Blazeftp knows the resource I'm referring - maybe he'll chime in and comment on this

**cutright** · 01-29-2011, 05:38 AM

Keep it at 1000iu per week...its not that much plus if you've ever read studies that's always the recommended dose to keep testicles working. I started 2 weeks in to my cycle at 500iu 2x per week. Then after my last shot I will blast 1000iu EOD for 2 weeks while the esters clear. Then start ur pct. I also run an AI all the way through. Good luck bro

**MDR** · 01-29-2011, 10:21 AM

500 2X a week is the minimum. I would cut back the Tren run, 16 weeks is a long time to be on Tren, and take the HCG from day one. Not hard to find more.

**VictorZ06** · 01-29-2011, 10:39 AM

You only need it up to week 16. 500iu X2 a week. Don't run it during PCT.

/V

**roastchicken** · 01-30-2011, 06:57 PM

Thanks for the responses.

I will run the HCG from week 1-16 taking a weeks break between vials..im cautious about using too higher a dose of HCG as i have read a fair amount regarding desensitization of the leydig cells. As always V your advise is usually rock solid cheers man!

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