Thread: Stronger's cutting cycle.

In and i know where u got most ur stuff lol

This is what I have in mind I don't have anything yet

What is this so called "cutting" process you speak of?

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

So this is what I'm planning for my cutting cycle. This is also going to be a contest prep cycle. I would like some advice from competitors on what would be best. At that point I should be at 235lb @ about 12% bf. 5'7''... My goal is to be 195-198 @ about 4%

16 week cycle

Week 1-16 Test Prop. (1-12) 130mg EOD 13-16 60mg ED
Week 1-16 Primo 400mg a week
Week 1-8 EQ 400mg
Week 9-16 Masteron 400mg
Week 14-16 Winstrol 50mg ED
Week 15-16 Halo (week 15 - 10mg ED/ week 16 20mg ED)
Week 5-7 Hcg 500iu ED/ Week 13-15 Hcg 500iu ED

Here are my questions:

I was thinking about using HGH 4iu ED for 12 weeks. I would that make a huge difference?
Would 400mg primo be sufficient? Or HGH would be a better choice?
Primo vs. Anavar?
Should I use Letro in the last weeks of my cycle to reduce water retention?
Which diuretics should I use before the show, when and how much?

Thanks for your help, if you can give me your opinion or answer any of the questions I would be very much appreciated.

That's a long cycle bro.. I get tired of 6 weeks on prop, 16 makes me wanna cry. IMO I would run cyp only bc of the length and it doesn't bloat me. As far as through goes, 12 weeks would be a waste bc it takes a lot longer than that to notice it's effects(at least for me anyway). Primo dose should be fine.

LASIX is great pre comp for it's diuretic effects..look into anadrol for 2 weeks leading up to the show. It will force any extra water in your muscles

Originally Posted by BigPapaPump68

As far as through goes, 12 weeks would be a waste bc it takes a lot longer than that to notice it's effects(at least for me anyway).

Which gear were you talking about?

most likely the eq

Well I would use the EQ for 10 weeks. That's not a problem

My main dilemma is the HGH or the Primo. Would primo really make a difference while cutting. I mean for the price, the other gear seems to be more efficient. And so is HGH.
About HGH, the only reason I'm not sure is because this would be my first show. But if 3 months of HGH could make a huge difference I'm willing to invest the money.

I can't say from experience but I don't think 12 weeks of growth is going to be worth it.

Most i have talked to, including HI, CT and Vic seemed to suggest 6 months if not more.

What are you stats right now ?

another thing with growth, according to CT if you use it ED then you need to add t3 in the mix because it will slow your thyroid function.

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

But if 3 months of HGH could make a huge difference I'm willing to invest the money.

You will see SOME gains after 3 months use of HGH, especially if your body is in an anabolic state. To get the most out of HGH, run slin and IGF with it. But be weary as slin can kill.




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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

You will see SOME gains after 3 months use of HGH, especially if your body is in an anabolic state. To get the most out of HGH, run slin and IGF with it. But be weary as slin can kill.




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Yeah I know about slin, I've used it by itself with so-so results. I was really disciplined so I never go hypo.

What would you suggest Victor Primo or HGH+slin? Which would give me better results for the $$$

Originally Posted by ROID

I can't say from experience but I don't think 12 weeks of growth is going to be worth it.

Most i have talked to, including HI, CT and Vic seemed to suggest 6 months if not more.

What are you stats right now ?

another thing with growth, according to CT if you use it ED then you need to add t3 in the mix because it will slow your thyroid function.

Right now, I'm 226 lbs 11%bf . I could use HGH for 4 months max, just because thats the sooner I can get it before the show.

I just feel with the money I would spend in real primo, I could spend a little more and use HGH.

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

Yeah I know about slin, I've used it by itself with so-so results. I was really disciplined so I never go hypo.

What would you suggest Victor Primo or HGH+slin? Which would give me better results for the $$$

Personally, nothing touches AAS/hgh/igf/slin. Primo is good stuff but will not produce the same effects of a disciplined and dialed in cycle with test/hgh/igf/slin. When you ran slin in the past, were you running it alone or with anything else?


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Originally Posted by stronger4ever

Which gear were you talking about?

Hgh

Eq seems too short at 8 weeks.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Eq seems too short at 8 weeks.

Anything under 14 weeks of EQ doesn't cut it for me.



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I could do the EQ for 14 weeks if I don't use Primo. And about HGH I could run it for the whole 16 weeks. The question is whether the HGH for 16 weeks would help me get more shredded than the Primo. I know my diet and training is what matters the most but I think I can take care of that.

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

I could do the EQ for 14 weeks if I don't use Primo. And about HGH I could run it for the whole 16 weeks. The question is whether the HGH for 16 weeks would help me get more shredded than the Primo. I know my diet and training is what matters the most but I think I can take care of that.

I'd run the HGH. But, I would run it correctly. And by that I don't mean 2iu a day of generic blues. Get some good pharm grade stuff and take 10iu on training days. If you know how to use slin and IGF, I'd use that as well.


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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I'd run the HGH. But, I would run it correctly. And by that I don't mean 2iu a day of generic blues. Get some good pharm grade stuff and take 10iu on training days. If you know how to use slin and IGF, I'd use that as well.


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Are Hygetropin good quality?

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

Are Hygetropin good quality?

I have heard good things about them, never tried it myself though. They are pharm grade....I just try to avoid anything from China, and they are a Chinese company. If you can get the real stuff, go for it.


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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I have heard good things about them, never tried it myself though. They are pharm grade....I just try to avoid anything from China, and they are a Chinese company. If you can get the real stuff, go for it.


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Ok thanks bro, One more thing...In the case I was able to do a perfect HGH cycle. What would the consequences? I look forward for it to help me to lose body fat more than anything. I wonder my endogenous production of HGH decrease after the cycle. I probably couldn't do another cycle of HGH until the next year for another show.

i think the real ones have 8 ius printed on the top and counterfeit ones have pinwheels if that helps you out at all

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

Ok thanks bro, One more thing...In the case I was able to do a perfect HGH cycle. What would the consequences? I look forward for it to help me to lose body fat more than anything. I wonder my endogenous production of HGH decrease after the cycle. I probably couldn't do another cycle of HGH until the next year for another show.

If you do it right, there really shouldn't be any "consequences"....other than your wallet getting lighter. I'm not sure if you have used HGH in the past, but once you get started, you won't want to stop. If you can, run it all year round. When off cycle, use a little less....when going on cycle, bump up the dose. That's what I do. I run 6iu ED when off and 10iu when on (with slin/igf).


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What happens when you stop? Do you get fat and old faster? lol

Originally Posted by tjsulli

i think the real ones have 8 ius printed on the top and counterfeit ones have pinwheels if that helps you out at all

Correct.

REAL HYGETROPIN must have anti-counterfeiting sticker on the box. The lower part of the label contains a code which must be consealed by a silver layer when you receive the kit. No one but you can see that code. In order to see the code you need to use a coin to scrab the silver part of the sticker to reveal a 16 digits code.




Rbbgear - Anabolic Steroids Blog: Hygetropin REAL &FAKE



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Originally Posted by stronger4ever

What happens when you stop? Do you get fat and old faster? lol

I hope to never find out!! lol



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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I hope to never find out!! lol



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Jesus man, thats scaring me. I can afford cycling gear all year long but my wife would kill me if I spent thousands in hgh throughout the year. How big are you Victor? Do you use the hgh just to maintain or your getting bigger as well?

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

Jesus man, thats scaring me. I can afford cycling gear all year long but my wife would kill me if I spent thousands in hgh throughout the year. How big are you Victor? Do you use the hgh just to maintain or your getting bigger as well?

I float around 260lbs, 6', 8%bf these days. My wife wouldn't have too much of a problem with it because she uses it as well. HGH makes me feel younger, it's improved my skin (the wife's to...less oil and smoother), I feel more active, I still have hair, my libido is always high, I could go on and on. It's gona cost me, but I find it well worth it.



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