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    ive always preferred to keep it simple with aas. never running more than 3 compounds in a cycle. ive got roughly 7 or 8 cycles under my belt over the last 11 yrs or so. of those just mentioned, ive never run orals. this is what my cycle looks like, which will start in approx. 1 month.

    weeks 1-10 500mg/wk test e
    weeks 6-10 50mg/day winn tabs
    weeks 12-16 100/75/50/50 clomid

    heres my question for yall. i will most certainly be using liver protection, but not so clear on this yet. should it only be run for the duration of the winny?i have read and heard somewhat conflicting info on this. and should i go with 10mg tabs to split dosages through the day? does this matter at all with winn the way it does with var? thanks fellas

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    Not sure offhand on the half life of oral winny, maybe 9 hours but I could be wrong. Even with the 50mg tabs, I used to break in half and take in two split daily doses. Worked quite well. I'd start liver protection a couple weeks before winny and continue it a couple weeks beyond last winny dose. Others might have different preferences/suggestions but this is one way to do it.

    Looks like a simple yet decent cycle assuming your BF is reasonably low to get the most out of the winny. you might've listed your stats in your other introduction post but I don't recall.

    When and what was the last cycle you did? Also, any particular reason you've never done orals? Just curious...

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    X2 on starting liver support 2 weeks prior to winny and two weeks after... not needed for the test

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    Not sure offhand on the half life of oral winny, maybe 9 hours but I could be wrong. Even with the 50mg tabs, I used to break in half and take in two split daily doses. Worked quite well. I'd start liver protection a couple weeks before winny and continue it a couple weeks beyond last winny dose. Others might have different preferences/suggestions but this is one way to do it.

    Looks like a simple yet decent cycle assuming your BF is reasonably low to get the most out of the winny. you might've listed your stats in your other introduction post but I don't recall.

    When and what was the last cycle you did? Also, any particular reason you've never done orals? Just curious...
    o shit sorry on the stats. 31yrs 6' 190 12%bf.
    last cycle wk 1-12 test e 500/wk.
    wk 1-12 tren e 400/wk
    wk 8-12 winny 50/wk

    it was harsh, ended it in oct so i think im ready to roll now. doc says im good, but wont be running tren again til next year. not ready for that lol.

    no good reason for staying away from orals. guess it was put in my head early that it was just too toxic.think it may have been an after school special with ben affleck abusing the juice, u know pouring a whole bottle of rocks down his throat and throwing shit and whatnot haha. plus i was 20 when i started. just kinda got whatevr was floating around in the gym, which was mostly cyp and deca. typical shit. i listened to the knuckeheads, i had no internet. we had a steroid bible probably 10 yrs old

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    Damn dude 400mg of tren e for 12 weeks is pretty stout.

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    I have read that using liver protection can hinder the effects of oral steroids. When I run anavar I don't run the protection until after the cycle. Winstrol may be harder on the liver, but you should be alright at 50mg/day for 4 weeks no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortstop View Post
    ive always preferred to keep it simple with aas. never running more than 3 compounds in a cycle. ive got roughly 7 or 8 cycles under my belt over the last 11 yrs or so. of those just mentioned, ive never run orals. this is what my cycle looks like, which will start in approx. 1 month.

    weeks 1-10 500mg/wk test e
    weeks 6-10 50mg/day winn tabs
    weeks 12-16 100/75/50/50 clomid

    heres my question for yall. i will most certainly be using liver protection, but not so clear on this yet. should it only be run for the duration of the winny?i have read and heard somewhat conflicting info on this. and should i go with 10mg tabs to split dosages through the day? does this matter at all with winn the way it does with var? thanks fellas
    I like your cycle...nice and simple. Winny has a 24 hour half life, so once a day dosing is fine, but I prefer to dose 2x per day to keep blood levels high.

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    Winny tabs 2x a day min

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    I like your cycle...nice and simple. Winny has a 24 hour half life, so once a day dosing is fine, but I prefer to dose 2x per day to keep blood levels high.

    yea i know its not needed as it is with var, but i always like to keep my blood levels as stable as possible. i'll go with 50mg tabs and split it moring and night. thanks bro

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    might want to add in an AI like Adex 0.5 mg every 2-3 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortstop View Post
    o shit sorry on the stats. 31yrs 6' 190 12%bf.
    last cycle wk 1-12 test e 500/wk.
    wk 1-12 tren e 400/wk
    wk 8-12 winny 50/wk

    it was harsh, ended it in oct so i think im ready to roll now. doc says im good, but wont be running tren again til next year. not ready for that lol.

    no good reason for staying away from orals. guess it was put in my head early that it was just too toxic.think it may have been an after school special with ben affleck abusing the juice, u know pouring a whole bottle of rocks down his throat and throwing shit and whatnot haha. plus i was 20 when i started. just kinda got whatevr was floating around in the gym, which was mostly cyp and deca. typical shit. i listened to the knuckeheads, i had no internet. we had a steroid bible probably 10 yrs old
    I remember that after-school special. Very exaggerated but entertaining. I think Affleck was on the school football team, too. We also had the World Anabolic Review in 1996 as our source of info. Called it the "Bible." lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    I remember that after-school special. Very exaggerated but entertaining. I think Affleck was on the school football team, too. We also had the World Anabolic Review in 1996 as our source of info. Called it the "Bible." lol.

    I loved that after school special. It was hilarious...

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