I'd love to run tren, but I already have sleeping problems and I have taken PH tren and it gave me insomnia. I can only guess what real tren would do to me!


Agreed-Test-Deca and D-bol as a kicker is one of my favorite cycles. Switch the Deca for Tren, and you have another one of my personal favorites. Like Anadrol and Halo as an oral, too-but I always pick just one. Deca and D-bol seem made to go together, IMHO. Not a fan of Tbol, but a lot of people like it.


I'd love to run tren, but I already have sleeping problems and I have taken PH tren and it gave me insomnia. I can only guess what real tren would do to me!


Will do.


Should ask but since dbol/deca is going to blow me up, I don't want to look like the moon. What should I start adex at?
Also, I'm toying with the idea between 20-30-40mg of dbol. Anyone have some input on this?
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I've heard the same thing about raising the test mg after 7-8 weeks. I've thought about doing that.


Also, around week 7-8 would throwing in test c @ 200mg for the rest of the cycle be alright?


Always felt that C and E are interchangeable. Some prefer one over the other. but I don't find there is much difference.


Cycle 2 sounds good. I personnally love D-bol. Probably one of my favorites. I just feel good when I take it. You should make great gains with that cycle.


I think i'll up the mg of test around 7-8, Thinking maybe just 100mg of test c to give myself a slight edge. What you guys think?
PH tren is not structurally related to trenbolone at all. It's a prohormone to Dienelone. The only way you'll know how Tren affects you is to try it. I hear where you're coming from though. P-Plex/Trenadrol was my favorite PH cycle of all time but I got insomnia from the PH tren too.
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