Thread: Gear Back Pain!

Originally Posted by stfuandliftbtch

Every cycle from about week 3 or 4 my lower back gets fucked up until my cycle is over. After doing squats I cannot perform lunges or leg press or anything stand, because my lower back is destroyed!! Even if its not leg day, my back hurts while standing.

I've also been having some problems with my tendons in my forearms(only on cycle). Sometimes I have to stop during a set of bis or back because the tendon pain is ridiculous.

Anyone have any of these problems?! Thanks 4 your replies

current cycle:
trenE-300mgs/wk (1-10)
testE-500mgs/wk (1-10)
Adrol- 75mgs/ED (1-6) (only 1 day left of adrol)

I don't know bro. Ive been having a similar problem. Sometimes I feel its because of my weight. Ever since I hit 220 my back seems to be in pain every time I do squats or deadlifts. Not as much now as it did before tho. I don't know if its the gear necessarily.

Same deal, lower back and forearm tendons.

The back could be due to core weakness? I generally dont do any core work, I fkg hate it but it looks like Im going to have to suck it up.

i been the same as well i figured mine was from the DMZrx which i finished yesterday now just on test i hope they go away back pump sux A** for sure

I get it aswell.

Nothing to do with weak core on my part.

I don't know what causes it but a shit load of water and taurine at 3000mg a day worked well for me.

for some reason orals and tren are notorious for causing back pumps but with that said having a solid core will take o lot of pressure of f the lower back the main reason i still do abs in the winter/bulking

Do more stretching. It's filling with blood and going into spasm. You can put a water bottle with icewater at the lower back and it will help stop the blood from pooling there. Could do this on leg day to help before going to the gym.

I get the lower back pump or pain so bad on Anadrol that multiple time I have not been able to get out of bed, and have had to remove it from my possibility list. As stated above try L-Taurine at 3000mg, ice then more ice (never heat as it will draw blood to the area and make it worse,trust me), and even a natural pain reliever will help by reducing inflammation.

Couple of other areas that I have gotten this pump or pain is my forearms, cheeks, jaw muscle, and prostrate. I will warn you that if you ever get the prostrate pump hopefully the first time you are alone. It feels like your taint is on fire and I actually yelled in a McDonalds bathroom that was packed the first time it happened to me. Felt like a A$$hole standing at the urinal yelling while looking at my pecker. I am sure this caused a couple of kids to need therapy.

Originally Posted by big60235

I get the lower back pump or pain so bad on Anadrol that multiple time I have not been able to get out of bed, and have had to remove it from my possibility list. As stated above try L-Taurine at 3000mg, ice then more ice (never heat as it will draw blood to the area and make it worse,trust me), and even a natural pain reliever will help by reducing inflammation.

Couple of other areas that I have gotten this pump or pain is my forearms, cheeks, jaw muscle, and prostrate. I will warn you that if you ever get the prostrate pump hopefully the first time you are alone. It feels like your taint is on fire and I actually yelled in a McDonalds bathroom that was packed the first time it happened to me. Felt like a A$$hole standing at the urinal yelling while looking at my pecker. I am sure this caused a couple of kids to need therapy.

That was you??!!

i feel that sometimes.... it really could be core weakness. work ur abs more. abs and lower back work synonymous. if ur abs have been neglected than ur lower back has to tighten up harder.

also breathing during the exercise can help. not regular breathing but full, deeep breaths to get more oxygen to ur muscles. more oxygen to ur back will help it relax and stretch.

doing this has helped me....

Originally Posted by big60235

Couple of other areas that I have gotten this pump or pain is my forearms, cheeks, jaw muscle, and prostrate. I will warn you that if you ever get the prostrate pump hopefully the first time you are alone. It feels like your taint is on fire and I actually yelled in a McDonalds bathroom that was packed the first time it happened to me. Felt like a A$$hole standing at the urinal yelling while looking at my pecker. I am sure this caused a couple of kids to need therapy.

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DUDE! I had a taint cramp the other day. It was intense to say the least. I was sitting in class freaking the fuck out. People were staring and I was trying not to grab my gooch. Ever had a eyebrow cramp? Those suck too.


To the OP, besides giving your body a break from all of the shit that you are running and never cycle off of, try tauring and potassium supps. 5g taurine/day(split up) and eat a banana pre-workout to start out with. It will take some time to build up but you should be okay.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

DUDE! I had a taint cramp the other day. It was intense to say the least. I was sitting in class freaking the fuck out. People were staring and I was trying not to grab my gooch. Ever had a eyebrow cramp? Those suck too.


To the OP, besides giving your body a break from all of the shit that you are running and never cycle off of, try tauring and potassium supps. 5g taurine/day(split up) and eat a banana pre-workout to start out with. It will take some time to build up but you should be okay.

Generally you'll get more from increasing sodium intake to relieve cramps than you will by adding potassium. Especially if you're sweating a lot.

thanks for the replies. i will try to work on core strength more..seems like a lot have the exact same problems.. i was suprised

Originally Posted by Life

Generally you'll get more from increasing sodium intake to relieve cramps than you will by adding potassium. Especially if you're sweating a lot.

I don't think most people here have a sodium defiencency. Just sayin.

Originally Posted by stfuandliftbtch

I've also been having some problems with my tendons in my forearms(only on cycle). Sometimes I have to stop during a set of bis or back because the tendon pain is ridiculous.

Here are a few things to try

1. get your self a strong liniment
2. Massage area with a tennis ball (like you would with a foam roller or trigger point tool)
3. Contrast showers/ baths ( for the elbow a bath is best)
fill up two 5 gal buckets or bigger if you can. One with ice water, the other with hot water. as hot as you can stand without burning yourself.
Start with putting your arm in the hot water for 2 min, then go immediately into the cold for 1 min. then backto hot for 2 min, cold 1 min. Do this for back and forth for 3-5 cycles.

The theory behind this is the hot will dilate the blood vessels and the cold will constrict the blood vessels causing an artificial pumping action which will pump fresh blood and nutrients through the affected area without stressing the problem( ie. tendon in this case.) resulting in a faster recovery period.

Try doing a full body shower in this manner after a long tough work out or when really sore. (just go hot and cold with the shower water but as cold as you can stand and as hot ass you can stand.

4. REST
There are also some braces that help with taking pressure off the tendon. But the most important thing is rest as the tendon/tendon sheath needs to calm down as it is inflammed. Light stretching and muscle balancing exercise once past the acute stage. Causes are either acute strain/strain but you would know if you did that. Also repetitive strain injury which highly repetitious activity irritates the tendon sheath.

None of these are magic quick fixes. But will help.

Brandon is right.

The Doc told me to do the Hot/Ice baths when I had tendonitis in my ankle and that really helped. I just used 5gal buckets. It's horrible but it works.

I cant speak for the lower back problem but I can tell you my tendons especially forearm and bi's fuck with me when im using gear. I get anywhere from a slight tingling sensation all the way up to strait up cramped up cant move. I never notice it when im off cycle tho.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

I don't think most people here have a sodium defiencency. Just sayin.

If youre drinking 1+ gallons of water a day and sweating your ass off you do. Electrolyte imbalance. Thats why everyone generally mentions potasium but your body dont flush potasium to the same extent nor does it use it like it does sodium. Just sayin....

I get lower back pumps ALLLLLL the time, especially when running oral compounds.

Motrin... Pop 'em like Orville Redenbacher!

It's a 2:3 ratio in the sodium potassium pump in our body's cells. 2 molecules of potassium to 3 molecules of sodium with ATP to transport proteins (enzymes) around our body.

You are correct that it doesn't use as much but potassium is still an extremely important molecule in your body. Without it you will not function correctly.


I was unsure if you knew this so it's cool information to learn since it relates to what we like to do.


Hey on a good note, it does look like I learned something in Bio class.

Potassium to balance out your sodium might help, so will 3000mg of Taurine. Of course upping your water.

Originally Posted by big60235

I get the lower back pump or pain so bad on Anadrol that multiple time I have not been able to get out of bed, and have had to remove it from my possibility list. As stated above try L-Taurine at 3000mg, ice then more ice (never heat as it will draw blood to the area and make it worse,trust me), and even a natural pain reliever will help by reducing inflammation.

Couple of other areas that I have gotten this pump or pain is my forearms, cheeks, jaw muscle, and prostrate. I will warn you that if you ever get the prostrate pump hopefully the first time you are alone. It feels like your taint is on fire and I actually yelled in a McDonalds bathroom that was packed the first time it happened to me. Felt like a A$$hole standing at the urinal yelling while looking at my pecker. I am sure this caused a couple of kids to need therapy.

Does the L-Taurine really work? Where did you you heare that from if you don't mind me asking? Cause my wife currently massages me once before I lift and once at night.

Certain gear can aggravate inflamed discs for me. Yoga once a week does it for me. Ups flexibility and core strength. Plus there's usually a good view. I've wasted lots of time and money with chiropractors and docs.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

It's a 2:3 ratio in the sodium potassium pump in our body's cells. 2 molecules of potassium to 3 molecules of sodium with ATP to transport proteins (enzymes) around our body.

You are correct that it doesn't use as much but potassium is still an extremely important molecule in your body. Without it you will not function correctly.


I was unsure if you knew this so it's cool information to learn since it relates to what we like to do.


Hey on a good note, it does look like I learned something in Bio class.

Depleting sodium during precontest diet is a debatable subject. Some folks don’t believe it is needed. Maybe that’s true for some folks, but everyone’s body is different. You have to do what works for your body. I found that my body retains water, so I have to deplete sodium. When you are depleting sodium you have to be careful, it can lead to problems… most common is cramping. The first thing people advise is to add potassium when you are cramping, but in this case that is the worst thing you can do. Why?

One of the primary roles of sodium and potassium is to regulate the body’s fluids. Of course there are other functions that sodium and potassium do, but we are going to talk about how depleting sodium affects your body. Potassium, which is also known as an electrolyte, is located in fluids inside the cells. Sodium is found in the fluids outside the cells. The cells in your body carry on many functions such as nerve impulse, muscle contraction, heart functions, etc. The fluids in the cells help sustain life. Our bodies depend on the tight regulation of sodium and potassium inside and outside the cells.

What happens when sodium or potassium get low? Some symptoms of low potassium include: fatigue, muscle weakness and cramps, and intestinal paralysis, which may lead to bloating, constipation, and abdominal pain. Some symptoms of low sodium include: headache, nausea, vomiting, muscle cramps, fatigue, disorientation, and fainting. As you can see the symptoms of low sodium and potassium are very similar. This is why people get confused to which one to add. When you get muscle cramps, people automatically think to they need more potassium when they may need more sodium or reduce their potassium intake.

When you are depleting sodium and you get muscle cramps, you don’t need more potassium. The problem is that your sodium and potassium balance is off. You are not taking in very much sodium. Your water intake is very high, so your body is not retaining water. When you are training, you are losing more water and sodium by sweating. Most of the time you are eating white, red and/ sweet potatoes, which are very high in potassium. Your multi-vitamin contains potassium. This is how Your sodium gets too low and your potassium gets too high. The best way to correct the imbalance is to reduce potassium intake. By rotating rice at one meal and potatoes for your next meal, you can reduce your potassium intake.

This is very critical! At my last competition two competitors crashed. One of the competitors was taken to the hospital by ambulance before prejudging even got started. They other had to drop out in the middle of prejudging because he was cramping so bad. I learned about the importance of sodium/potassium from my first competition. Lucky, it was during precontest training. I was suffering from muscle cramps, and my trainer told me I needed a banana. When I asked my diet coach about it, she told me about the dangers of too much potassium. She crashed during a competition from too much potassium.

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I couldn't find the actual study with the information I was looking for (I forgot what college put it out..). What I'm trying to get you to consider is that all of these people saying "take potassium" are just repeating the same thing everyone else tells them. It isn't the amount of potassium you have in your body, it is the amount in relation to the amount of sodium that matters. Taking potassium is not going to help you with back pumps. Taking a sports drink that includes potassium and salt probably will.

Life, all I meant by the first comment I made was that I would bet that most people are getting way too much sodium in their diets. Canned food, Drinks..etc


All I know is that when I was cramping on clen that taurine and potassium hepled me ten fold. I'm sure it was more the taurine than the K but they worked well enough I could finish a workout without my arm blowing up.


I see how with high volumes of water and strict diet that the balance could be thrown off. I assume that it is at it's highest risk pre-contest. I think most people on here don't plan to enter many contests besides who's E-dick is the biggest.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Life, all I meant by the first comment I made was that I would bet that most people are getting way too much sodium in their diets. Canned food, Drinks..etc


All I know is that when I was cramping on clen that taurine and potassium hepled me ten fold. I'm sure it was more the taurine than the K but they worked well enough I could finish a workout without my arm blowing up.


I see how with high volumes of water and strict diet that the balance could be thrown off. I assume that it is at it's highest risk pre-contest. I think most people on here don't plan to enter many contests besides who's E-dick is the biggest.

*shrug* My sodium levels are always low

sit ups helped my lower back pain. It didn't just help, it eliminated it.

Originally Posted by BigBird

That was you??!!

I am so sorry.

Please have your people forward Amy bills to my people and they will take care of them. By that I mean throw them away so you get put into collections.