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    GMO's IGF-1 DES PCT Log

    Alright...the journey has begun. My DES has shipped today, and I must say that communication with EP has been excellent! Far superior to any other company that I have done business with. E-mails are always returned same day...even on Sundays.

    I will be running EP IGF-1 DES as part of my PCT regimen starting Monday Feb 14th. My cycle was as follows:

    1-12 Test C 600mg
    1-6 D-bol 50mg
    8-14 T-bol 60mg

    I have gained 18 clean pounds from this cycle. My goal is to keep ALL or MOST of it using Clomid and IGF-1 DES.

    My PCT is simple: Clomid 100/75/50/50 and IGF-1 DES 50mcg PWO bilateral site injects, as per Victor's suggestion. I may throw an AI or Cortisol blocker in around week 2-3, but that all depends on how my body is doing.

    I am 34 years old 5'10 220lbs 10% BF (calipers) and have been lifting for 21 years. I played High School and Div 1 College Football. I have done numerous cycles in the past 9 years, but have just come off of a 2 year hiatus after a torn anterior delt. (Hence the low test dose). This will be my first experience with a peptide.

    Stay Tuned!

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    WTG GMO! Looking forward to hearing your test results. You should have your DES in a few days. Keep us posted and thanks for the kind words.

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    Awesome. Subbed for this one!

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    In brother!! This looks damn awesome!!!

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    Sounds great. I will post up when I recieve the follastin

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    i incorporate either IGF DES 1,3 or IGF1 LR3 into all my pct regimes and really like it. My dose is a tad bit higher at 80mcg bilateral site injections. I have yet to see a difference between the results of the two peptides that would enable me to conclude the the igf1 des 1,3 is way stronger than the other. all in all, i think you will be happy as long as you take the special reconstitution precaautions and get the math right on the dose which seems to be half the battle for most people. good luck

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    Were you using/are you using HCG on cycle? What other PCT protocols have you utilized?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    Were you using/are you using HCG on cycle? What other PCT protocols have you utilized?
    I have used HCG in the past when running Tren or Deca, but for Test cycles I stick with clomid. It brings me back strong every time. I'm not saying that this protocol is for everyone, but for me it works. My natty test tends to rebound quite quickly. Probably because of the long breaks I take in between cycles (4-6 months at a min).

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    GMO , your stats are damn near close to mine. You got mein hieght by 2" but our weight is the same and I might be a hair above 10% BF. Oh yeah, I played HS football but not college. I decided to play a tougher sport in college and men's club afterwards. It's called Rugby! haha.

    I'll be paying close attention to how you make out with the peptide.
    Keep us posted.

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    It Has Arrived!

    My IGF-1 DES arrived in the mail today, just two days after I asked EP to switch from LR3 to DES. Excellent Service indeed!

    Vials were also packaged extremely well.

    Thanks EP

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    You got it! Looking forward to hearing your progress.

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    So you're going with Bilateral IM shots?

    Are you going to inject into the muscles that you worked out or what? As you know I have some of this but I don't know what I want to do with it yet. PCT is in 5 more weeks I think.

    I don't know when I would inject. The bathroom at the gym doesn't sound too nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJ View Post
    So you're going with Bilateral IM shots?

    Are you going to inject into the muscles that you worked out or what? As you know I have some of this but I don't know what I want to do with it yet. PCT is in 5 more weeks I think.

    I don't know when I would inject. The bathroom at the gym doesn't sound too nice.
    Yes, bi-lat into the muscles just worked. I'm going to jack it right in the locker room after I train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    Yes, bi-lat into the muscles just worked. I'm going to jack it right in the locker room after I train.
    Hell yeah...that's what I'm talking about...lol

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    I recon'ed my DES today in .6% AA and it when very smooth. The powder dissolved quickly with no cloudiness left in the vial. My preloaded syringes are in the freezer and I am ready to rock and roll on Monday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    I recon'ed my DES today in .6% AA and it when very smooth. The powder dissolved quickly with no cloudiness left in the vial. My preloaded syringes are in the freezer and I am ready to rock and roll on Monday...

    You're not going to backload them with BAC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    You're not going to backload them with BAC?

    Yes at 1.5x

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    Day 1

    Ok..It has begun. PCT + IGF-1 (DES). I am thankful for the opportunity to run this through my PCT, b/c it gives me something to look forward to even while PCTing.

    Stats are above...my weight is down 2lbs @ 218, but that is probably just a fluctuation.

    My lifts were on point today...I was full of energy.

    Postworkout, I injected 50mcg bilaterally into my pecs, as this was the muscle I trained. I diluded the IGF-1 x4 with Bac water to avoid muscle necrosis and the burning sensation that comes with injecting an acid. No pain whatsoever, but I did feel a slight hypo feeling soon after inject, which I took care of with a quick blast of carbs.


    I am no longer following a split routine, b/c I want to make the most of my IGF-1.

    My new weekly routine will be as follows:

    Monday: Chest
    Tues: Back
    Wed: Legs
    Thr: Shoulders
    Fri: Bi's/Tris

    Movements vary from week to week, but I always incorporate heavy compound movements.

    Any input is welcome of course!

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    Awesome to hear GMO! cant wait to see your results.

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    Just wanted to report that I have a crazy pump in my upper chest where I injected. Never felt that before...

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    Awesome! Keep the updates coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    Just wanted to report that I have a crazy pump in my upper chest where I injected. Never felt that before...
    Isn't that pretty cool, and that pump stays with you for a while.

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    Alright, I'm four days in.

    I continue to have the wicked pumps in the muscles I inject. I also am CONSTANTLY hungry, which is good b/c that alone is going to help my PCT.

    My weight has not changed yet, but I look a little leaner prob due to some water leaving my body.

    My muscles are still full, and I still feel jacked. This of course is only the first week of PCT, so that is to be expected. My energy in the gym is also still very high.

    I am now drinking my simple carbs before injection along with 50g of protein to avoid the hypo feeling I felt on the first pin. I then consume a large meal of complex carbs, lean protein and spinach.

    So far, so good!

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    hell yes brother!! ive been watching this and man, you got me excited, in a non-creepy sort of way haha; good stuff bro!!

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    I am following, running LR3 at the moment myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJ View Post
    So you're going with Bilateral IM shots?

    Are you going to inject into the muscles that you worked out or what? As you know I have some of this but I don't know what I want to do with it yet. PCT is in 5 more weeks I think.
    That's how you should do it. You can do it when you get home.

    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    Yes, bi-lat into the muscles just worked. I'm going to jack it right in the locker room after I train.
    And how do you plan to prevent shaking of the peptide and heat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    That's how you should do it. You can do it when you get home.



    And how do you plan to prevent shaking of the peptide and heat?

    I keep preloaded syringes frozen until which time I am going to inject. I let them thaw, immediately draw 3cc of Bac water and BANG BANG.

    I am waiting until I get home now, but at first I was taking the syringes in a lunch box with an ice pack in it to control temp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    I keep preloaded syringes frozen until which time I am going to inject. I let them thaw, immediately draw 3cc of Bac water and BANG BANG.

    I am waiting until I get home now, but at first I was taking the syringes in a lunch box with an ice pack in it to control temp.
    You freeze the solution? Or you just keep it in the freezer but doesn't freeze solid? Because freezing solid will denature the protein.
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    I am following these instructions as outlined by a biological lab that synthesizes IGF-1 for distribution:

    Lyophilized IGF-1 although stable at room temperature for 3 weeks, should be stored desiccated below -18°C. Upon reconstitution IGF-I should be stored at 4°C between 2-7 days and for future use below -18°C. For long term storage it is recommended to add a carrier protein (0.1% HSA or BSA).
    Please avoid freeze-thaw cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    I am following these instructions as outlined by a biological lab that synthesizes IGF-1 for distribution:

    Lyophilized IGF-1 although stable at room temperature for 3 weeks, should be stored desiccated below -18°C. Upon reconstitution IGF-I should be stored at 4°C between 2-7 days and for future use below -18°C. For long term storage it is recommended to add a carrier protein (0.1% HSA or BSA).
    Please avoid freeze-thaw cycles.
    So I'm asking.... are you freezing the solution to a solid state? Yes or no.
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