best roid to cycle alone

BcHawk_99 · 10-23-2002, 12:34 PM

what is the best steroid that i can cycle alone.i am 31 years old and have a hard time gaining.i am looking for something to give me a good boost.also is there anything in oral form that would be a good standalone steroid to take.

crackerjack414 · 10-23-2002, 02:32 PM

iam of the opinion that oral only cylces are simply crap. You need an injectable hopefully some test. If you want pure mass try between 30- 40mg of dbol ed with 500mg of test a week. for test cyp eth or sust but its a personaly pref. u are gonna need novadex or armidex in case of gyno and some clomid for post cycle

cornfed · 10-29-2002, 01:04 PM

Test (i say Cyp) @ 250-500/wk
--or--
EQ @ 400/wk (even better w/ test

)

**Mudge** · 10-29-2002, 01:46 PM

I'd agree, test, and your post cycle goodies.

Snake_Eyes · 10-29-2002, 07:34 PM

EQ or a long-acting test esther. Tren is supposedly decent by itself as well.

Orals won't have nearly the effect, but anavar or dbol would be a good choice.

**Mudge** · 10-30-2002, 01:46 AM

Anavar sure since its a strength roid, but I haven't heard good things about dbol alone.

Trap-isaurus · 10-30-2002, 03:58 AM

I Like my fini

Snake_Eyes · 10-30-2002, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Anavar sure since its a strength roid, but I haven't heard good things about dbol alone.

Depends on what you're looking for.

Neither will give the gains of an oral cycle. And you're right, anavar is going to give good strength gains. The problem with dbol is that a lot of the weight is water, so its really easy to drop poundage after the cycle. However, as any oral-only cycle will be mediocre anyway, I don't see it'll matter.

My fave for solo roid is going to be EQ regardless.

Snake_Eyes · 10-30-2002, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BjUaFyF
I Like my fini

Fina = Tren

crackerjack414 · 10-31-2002, 10:53 AM

id say test you gotta run clomid post it always seems to yeild some awsome gains

Snake_Eyes · 10-31-2002, 11:37 AM

You should run clomid post-cycle on any steroid.

CalFit · 10-31-2002, 09:12 PM

Best gear to cycle alone? Well, I don't think there is one best, but there are many good types that will yeild great gains when used alone. I wouldn't do an oral only cycle only because your gains will leave you just as fast as they came and not to mention they are very hard on the liver. If you do decide to do an oral only cycle, keep it to 4 weeks max.

Dbol/Anadrol will give you the fastest results giving you rapid weight gain (mostly water) and strength.

Anavar is much more mild compared to dbol/anadrol, resulting in slower gains which are easier to keep post cycle. Not to mention real anavar is hard to come by and more expensive than dbol/anadrol.

As far as Fina as an injectable or oral, well it is a great AAS but if this is your first time, if I were you, I wouldn't do it. It will increase your strength by a lot becuase it is about 3 times as androgenic as testosterone as well as limiting water weight, giving you more of a hard look. But, there are progestin/progesterone sides that you want to be very careful of(potential gyno that cannot be stopped using nolva/arimidex).

Primo would be an awesome AAS to cycle alone for a first timer, that is, if only it was easier and cheap to get. Real primo is few and far between.

EQ would be a close second to primo @ 300-600 mg/wk.

But as for me, I did test. Test will yeild good weight gains and very good strength gains. You can control the gyno and bloat by taking in arimidex and in extreme cases of predicted gyno, nolvadex can be used. You can't go wrong with a test only cycle for a fist timer @ 500 mg/wk

**Mudge** · 10-31-2002, 10:02 PM

Fina by itself shuts down most people that I hear from, and also seems to induce aggression in people as well (I wonder if this is related to cleanliness or toxicity).

Primo = $$$

CalFit · 11-01-2002, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
Fina by itself shuts down most people that I hear from, and also seems to induce aggression in people as well (I wonder if this is related to cleanliness or toxicity).

Primo = $$$

The aggression one experiences from fina is most likely due to it being 3 times more androgenic than test. Hence, more androgens = more aggression...

CalFit · 11-01-2002, 03:42 AM

**Refering to my last post**

Althought, I found this from meso-rx

"It is also not clear that trenbolone results in any greater degree of increased aggression for a given amount of anabolic effect than testosterone itself does, despite another myth to that effect. The increase in aggressive tendency -- which does not mean the act of aggression -- is moderate and entirely controllable, if noticeable at all."

To each their own...

**Mudge** · 11-01-2002, 06:31 PM

With just about anything, YMMV - some complain about a particular item, some dont, some love it.

10-23-2002, 12:34 PM	#1
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10-29-2002, 01:04 PM	#3
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10-29-2002, 01:46 PM	#4
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	I'd agree, test, and your post cycle goodies.
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10-30-2002, 01:46 AM	#6
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	Anavar sure since its a strength roid, but I haven't heard good things about dbol alone.
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10-30-2002, 03:58 AM	#7
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10-23-2002, 02:32 PM	#2
crackerjack414 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cali Posts: 644	iam of the opinion that oral only cylces are simply crap. You need an injectable hopefully some test. If you want pure mass try between 30- 40mg of dbol ed with 500mg of test a week. for test cyp eth or sust but its a personaly pref. u are gonna need novadex or armidex in case of gyno and some clomid for post cycle

10-29-2002, 07:34 PM	#5
Snake_Eyes Real American Hero Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nevada Posts: 221	EQ or a long-acting test esther. Tren is supposedly decent by itself as well. Orals won't have nearly the effect, but anavar or dbol would be a good choice.

10-31-2002, 10:53 AM	#10
crackerjack414 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cali Posts: 644	id say test you gotta run clomid post it always seems to yeild some awsome gains

10-31-2002, 11:37 AM	#11
Snake_Eyes Real American Hero Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nevada Posts: 221	You should run clomid post-cycle on any steroid.

10-31-2002, 09:12 PM	#12
CalFit Working on it... Join Date: May 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 19	Best gear to cycle alone? Well, I don't think there is one best, but there are many good types that will yeild great gains when used alone. I wouldn't do an oral only cycle only because your gains will leave you just as fast as they came and not to mention they are very hard on the liver. If you do decide to do an oral only cycle, keep it to 4 weeks max. Dbol/Anadrol will give you the fastest results giving you rapid weight gain (mostly water) and strength. Anavar is much more mild compared to dbol/anadrol, resulting in slower gains which are easier to keep post cycle. Not to mention real anavar is hard to come by and more expensive than dbol/anadrol. As far as Fina as an injectable or oral, well it is a great AAS but if this is your first time, if I were you, I wouldn't do it. It will increase your strength by a lot becuase it is about 3 times as androgenic as testosterone as well as limiting water weight, giving you more of a hard look. But, there are progestin/progesterone sides that you want to be very careful of(potential gyno that cannot be stopped using nolva/arimidex). Primo would be an awesome AAS to cycle alone for a first timer, that is, if only it was easier and cheap to get. Real primo is few and far between. EQ would be a close second to primo @ 300-600 mg/wk. But as for me, I did test. Test will yeild good weight gains and very good strength gains. You can control the gyno and bloat by taking in arimidex and in extreme cases of predicted gyno, nolvadex can be used. You can't go wrong with a test only cycle for a fist timer @ 500 mg/wk

10-31-2002, 10:02 PM	#13
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	Fina by itself shuts down most people that I hear from, and also seems to induce aggression in people as well (I wonder if this is related to cleanliness or toxicity). Primo = $$$
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11-01-2002, 03:42 AM	#15
CalFit Working on it... Join Date: May 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 19	Refering to my last post Althought, I found this from meso-rx "It is also not clear that trenbolone results in any greater degree of increased aggression for a given amount of anabolic effect than testosterone itself does, despite another myth to that effect. The increase in aggressive tendency -- which does not mean the act of aggression -- is moderate and entirely controllable, if noticeable at all." To each their own...

11-01-2002, 06:31 PM	#16
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	With just about anything, YMMV - some complain about a particular item, some dont, some love it.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

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