PCT for methadrol extreme? New to the forum.

[johnolfc]

hi people

i am new to this forum and this is my first post need a bit of help from you guys it will be much appreciated.
I have ordered methadrol extreme just one bottle along with 1-andro. I am going to follow the recommended dosages of each product but i am having a bit of trouble with pct. I didnt order the cycle supports that were recommended as i thought i could get hold of a serm in the uk but now my friend has lost his source so im in a bit of a pickle. I am in the UK so i don't fancy reordering due to shipping services USPS terrible took to long!
What would you guys recommend for an otc pct? I want to run this right because i no this could shut me down hard. Thanks again

[apietrosanti86]

hi people

i am new to this forum and this is my first post need a bit of help from you guys it will be much appreciated.
I have ordered methadrol extreme just one bottle along with 1-andro. I am going to follow the recommended dosages of each product but i am having a bit of trouble with pct. I didnt order the cycle supports that were recommended as i thought i could get hold of a serm in the uk but now my friend has lost his source so im in a bit of a pickle. I am in the UK so i don't fancy reordering due to shipping services USPS terrible took to long!
What would you guys recommend for an otc pct? I want to run this right because i no this could shut me down hard. Thanks again

you can run an otc AI such as ATD or 6-oxo, but you'll need a research grade SERM like tamoxifen.

[Prince]

E-Control Rx™ - Anti-Estrogen


ATD for Estrogen Control & PCT

ATD (3,17-dioxo-etiochol-1,4,6-triene) is a recent introduction to estrogen control. It is thought to stop estrogen production in a manner similar to steroidal AI’s such as exemestane. Brand name ATD’s are Rebound XT, Rebound Reloaded, Novedex XT, Ultra H.O.T and Ultra H.O.T.ter.

ATD is technically an aromatase inhibitor, but with some interesting properties that make it a very useful addition to our estrogen control arsenals.

There are two negative feedback loops that we try to correct through post cycle therapy. The first is elevated estrogen levels from aromatase activity act on the hypothalamus to decrease GnRH production. The second is that elevated androgen levels stimulate androgen receptors in the hypothalamus causing decreased GnRH production. Decreased GnRH leads to reduced LH and FSH production, both of which are directly involved in testosterone production.

Typical PCT with SERM’s and AI’s address the estrogen component of this negative feedback, but do nothing for androgenic stimulation of the hypothalamus. ATD addresses the androgenic feedback loop. ATD has 90% androgenic activity in muscle tissue but only 10% androgenic activity in the hypothalamus.

ATD works for androgen activity the same way that tamoxifen works for estrogen. Tamoxifen blocks estrogen in breast tissue, but has positive effects in other tissue such as liver and bone. ATD blocks androgens in the hypothalamus, but allows it to be active in other tissue.

Because of this dual action estrogen levels are lowered while testosterone levels begin to rise. This is because ATD tricks your hypothalamus into thinking testosterone levels are low so it produces more. ATD provides benefits far beyond simply controlling estrogen in your body. Through its control over the androgen negative feedback loop testosterone production is restarted much faster. And the faster you recover your natural testosterone production the easier it is to keep muscular gains.

In addition to ATD’s benefits for post cycle therapy studies have shown that employing ATD during AAS use maintains significant HPTA function. This means reduced testicular atrophy and faster post-cycle recovery. This is something that you simply can’t get from estrogen control alone.

ATD can also be used by the natural athlete to increase testosterone production. In studies increases of up to 400% in testosterone have been seen. This is equivalent to injecting 400-600mg per week of testosterone enanthate or cypionate. This means continued growth for the natural athlete without the problems and side effects usually associated with injecting testosterone.

While there should technically not be any difference between the ATD ptoducts I have personally seen the best results using Rebound XT by Designer Supplements. I believe it is also the most cost effective of the ATD products out there. Your mileage may vary.

I’ve found the following discussion on running SERM’s inverse to ATD’s which is both informative and by all accounts very effective. It has been posted on many forums and the credit for it goes to Dr. D. Thank you Dr. D! “Discussion on running SERM inverse to ATD.

Estrogen only “rebounds” based on the mechanism of suppression. SERM, for example, only masks estrogen expression by occupying receptors but estrogen production is left unchecked and actually increases as testosterone levels increase. AI’s like letro inhibit inducible enzymes and just like a leaky faucet, they body will eventually try to balance the equation with increased aromatase activity. Steroidal AI’s like Teslac, Exemestane, and ReboundXT will not result in ‘rebound’ phenomena because the inhibition is non-competitive and irreversible. They act as false substrates, so aromatase is still happy to act on them (instead of androstenedione) and the body keeps no record of an imbalance. There is no leaky faucet. In fact, after prolonged use, steroidal AI’s often produce a protracted anti-e benefit even after being discontinued. This is why I suggest an inverse taper with SERM and RXT for PCT with an abrupt stoppage of RXT at the end. As the SERM elevates androgen/estrogen production, the AI dose is increased to compensate while the SERM is phased out. It works quite well to use this approach and rebound is not encountered. Adding LX and/or DHEA also really makes for a killer PCT in this scheme.

E-Control Rx™ - Anti-Estrogen

[johnolfc]

Thanks for the help guys

[USRanger]

need estrogen block during cycle or not? Also which is better this or super dmz..along terms of pure size makin the shirts tighter?