Thread: First steps into the dark side

6 weeks cycle with 200mg and 300mg test. You're wasting your time bro. Those are trt ranges. Up your test to at least 500 and make your cycle at least 8 weeks.

One more thing, pick only one oral. For your first cycle tbol would be better. Winny doesn't give you noticeable results until you're leaner.

If you have to wait to get your cyp wait. Otherwise, you can find what you need somewhere else. Do your research. I was in the same position as you getting my test from my doc. If I was going to use test I chose to be serious about it.

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

6 weeks cycle with 200mg and 300mg test. You're wasting your time bro. Those are trt ranges. Up your test to at least 500 and make your cycle at least 8 weeks.

K I will just wait another 6 months I wasn't sure if I could get away with the smaller amount being that it was first cycle. I hadn't seen anyone using less then 500mg's so I thought that might be a issue.

Should I do the orals for the whole 8 weeks or cut them at 6 to ease up on liver damage?

PS thanks for the response

I know what you're going through bro. When I first started I figured that I was going to become the Hulk if I did 500mg/wk. I didn't want people to notice. That being said, you can gain 20 lbs on 500/wk. Or..... you can gain nothing. If you look at the guys gaining lots of weight, it's because they want to gain that much weight. It take a lot of work thought. Not just lifting. It's in their diet. MASSIVE intake to make those gains (lean gains). If you choose to not gain that kind of weigh just manipulate your diet, figure out your "tipping point" as far as weight gain through diet and bust your ass in the gym.
The problem with only 200/wk is that you don't truly reach the levels that are needed to afford you to benefit to properly manipulate your training and diet as laid out in the words above.
Weight gain is up to you (if you keep your bloating under control).

Get some more test so you can do 500mg a week for 12 weeks.

Originally Posted by Hell

Get some more test so you can do 500mg a week for 12 weeks.

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Good Advice given

Originally Posted by stronger4ever

6 weeks cycle with 200mg and 300mg test. You're wasting your time bro. Those are trt ranges. Up your test to at least 500 and make your cycle at least 8 weeks.

One more thing, pick only one oral. For your first cycle tbol would be better. Winny doesn't give you noticeable results until you're leaner.

If you have to wait to get your cyp wait. Otherwise, you can find what you need somewhere else. Do your research. I was in the same position as you getting my test from my doc. If I was going to use test I chose to be serious about it.

Great advice here.

-T

Originally Posted by colorado

I know what you're going through bro. When I first started I figured that I was going to become the Hulk if I did 500mg/wk. I didn't want people to notice. That being said, you can gain 20 lbs on 500/wk. Or..... you can gain nothing. If you look at the guys gaining lots of weight, it's because they want to gain that much weight. It take a lot of work thought. Not just lifting. It's in their diet. MASSIVE intake to make those gains (lean gains). If you choose to not gain that kind of weigh just manipulate your diet, figure out your "tipping point" as far as weight gain through diet and bust your ass in the gym.
The problem with only 200/wk is that you don't truly reach the levels that are needed to afford you to benefit to properly manipulate your training and diet as laid out in the words above.
Weight gain is up to you (if you keep your bloating under control).

Well said brojangles. Its refreshing when somebody says something that makes total sense and 500 dudes that know everything about everything dont jump in and start a pissing match.