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    Lightbulb Proviron

    I have been doing some research and found out proviron basicly prevents estrogen forming when used with other aas as test, gives muscle the hard look same as masteron, so my question is why is it not used commonly?

    Proviron has four distinct uses in the world of bodybuilding. The first being the result of its structure. It is 5-alpha reduced and not capable of forming estrogen, yet it nonetheless has a much higher affinity for the aromatase enzyme (which converts testosterone to estrogen) than testosterone does. That means in administering it with testosterone or another aromatizable compound, it prevents estrogen build-up because it binds to the aromatase enzyme very strongly, thereby preventing these steroids from interacting with it and forming estrogen. So Mesterolone use has the extreme benefit of reducing estrogenic side-effects and water retention noted with other steroids, and as such still help to provide mostly lean gains. Its also been suggested that it may actually downgrade the actual estrogen receptor making it doubly effective at reducing circulating estrogen levels.

    The second use is in enhancing the potency of testosterone. Testosterone in the body at normal physiological levels is mostly inactive. As much as 97 or 98 percent of testosterone in that amount is bound to sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and albumin, two proteins. In such a form testosterone is mostly inactive. But as with the aromatase enzyme, DHT has a higher affinity for these proteins than testosterone does, so when administered simultaneously the mesterolone will attach to the SHBG and albumin, leaving larger amounts of free testosterone to mediate anabolic activities such as protein synthesis. Another way in which it helps to increase gains. Its also another part of the equation that makes it ineffective on its own, as binding to these proteins too, would render it a non-issue at the androgen receptor.

    Thirdly, mesterolone is added in pre-contest phases to increase a distinct hardness and muscle density. Probably due to its reduction in circulating estrogen, perhaps due to the downregulating of the estrogen receptor in muscle tissue, it decreases the total water build-up of the body giving its user a much leaner look, and a visual effect of possessing "harder" muscles with more cuts and striations. Proviron is often used as a last-minute secret by a lot of bodybuilders and both actors and models have used it time and again to deliver top shape day in day out, when needed. Like the other methylated DHT compound, drostanolone, mesterolone is particularly potent in achieving this feat.

    Lastly Proviron is used during a cycle of certain hormones such as nandrolone, with a distinct lack of androgenic nature, or perhaps 5-alpha reduced hormones that don't have the same affinities as DHT does. Such compounds, thinking of trenbolone, nandrolone and such in particular, have been known to decrease libido. Limiting the athlete to perform sexually being the logical result. DHT plays a key role in this process and is therefore administered in conjunction with such steroids to ease or relieve this annoying side-effect. Proviron is also commonly prescribed by doctors to people with low levels of testosterone, or patients with chronic impotence. Its not perceived as a powerful anabolic, but it gets the job done equally well if not better than other anabolic steroids making it a favorite in medical practices due to its lower chance of abuse.

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    Some guys like it others do not. I've always been a non-responder to it, even at 100mg ED for 8 weeks. It's a weak A/I at best and shouldn't be used in place of aromasin or something similar.

    Masteron will produce better results mg per mg.

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    I LOVE the stuff. My wife likes the fact that I use it as well.


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    I'm using d-plex as a proviron substitute right now.

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    So can we say that at low doses of aas(500mg-800mg) proviron can or will work but if you are over a gram a week better to be on arimi or letro...
    also from what i read is if you are using letro then provi can be used for libido...
    so in everyway provi in a cycle is a win win am i correct?

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    Yes I agree that proviron is a winner in almost any cycle. I used at the begining of my current cycle and loved it. I used it at 50mg a day while using test at 500mg a week. I had no signs of estrogenic sides at all very hard look as well. All while adding mass. I will be incorporating it in future cycles for sure. As soon as I stopped taking it because I ran out. I had to jump on aromasin because the estro was elevated. I my opinion it does work in place of an AI in lower dosed test cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imosted View Post
    So can we say that at low doses of aas(500mg-800mg) proviron can or will work but if you are over a gram a week better to be on arimi or letro...
    also from what i read is if you are using letro then provi can be used for libido...
    so in everyway provi in a cycle is a win win am i correct?
    I'd have to agree....I run all my programs with 75mg of proviron ED. And my pecker can drill holes in brick walls!


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    I've always thought it shouldn't be used in place of a proper AI.

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    I understand that Proviron and all DHT derivitives generally have a positive effect on libido and erection quality, but after a while, especially the people advocating proviron year round, wouldn't it cause the prostate to swell which would lead to problems in the bedroom? Just bro-theory. Hopefully someone can tell me what's up and that it doesn't happen like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJ View Post
    I've always thought it shouldn't be used in place of a proper AI.

    And you sir are 100% correct!



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    Do people use proviron with an AI like adex?

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    I have an AI on hand (aromasin) but have not had to use it with proviron.

    @ Diesel - that's correct about the swelling of the prostate - as a long term effect - although I haven't heard of anyone actually mentioning this problem first hand.

    I'm going to run proviron for a few months - then switch over to masteron - and alternate the two.

    Proviron also frees up test as well - but most people (including myself) get side tracked about the libidos benefits whenever talking about proviron.

    Along with the libido - I also feel more pumped through out the day and my veins are pop'n as well.

    Over all it's great stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel618 View Post
    I'm using d-plex as a proviron substitute right now.
    well, its methyl dht so i guess why not. what do u dose it at?

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    I'm just using 50 mg/day. 1 cap upon waking, 1 cap pre-workout. I had some leftover and I figured why not. I've been researching the shit outa protodrol and d-plex and proviron and they all seem very very similar. I'm only two days in so it's hard to tell if it's working yet. I wouldn't recommend it, it's harder on the liver than proviron, but hey times are tough lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGB1987 View Post
    Yes I agree that proviron is a winner in almost any cycle. I used at the begining of my current cycle and loved it. I used it at 50mg a day while using test at 500mg a week. I had no signs of estrogenic sides at all very hard look as well. All while adding mass. I will be incorporating it in future cycles for sure. As soon as I stopped taking it because I ran out. I had to jump on aromasin because the estro was elevated. I my opinion it does work in place of an AI in lower dosed test cycles.
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