Laying out Cycle....Please Help!

**R305Builder** · 02-17-2011, 06:21 AM

ok my Stats are as follows:

Age: 25
Height: 5' 11
Weight: 218
Training Experience: 6+ Years
Diet good clean about 4000 calories a day

I have done a few cycles before of Test and deca and another of Test and winstro. Back then i didnt do PCT or even take any AI's luckily never had any problems but now don't want to risk it. I also lost most of my gains so i want to do it right this time.

SO i was planning on getting some tren,Winny, Clen, and sustanon or test e or Cyp and do a 16 week cycle. I would get some aromasin at 12.5mg eod. ANd my PCTwould be:

Step One: While "on" use HCGenerate to lessen suppression.

Step Two: Use hcg to kickstart your HPTA. This will not last however. The body must take over on its own, but this will help.

Step Three: Use Proviron and/or UNLEASHED to lower SHBG and increase free testosterone -- making it as high as possible, even when suppressed. At some point you have to come off the Proviron but the UNLEASHED , which works similarly, can be used indefinitely.

Step Four: Use AROMASIN to remove excess estrogen that may build up when androgen levels are lower and to allow the body to create more natural testosterone.

Step Four: Use POST CYCLE to detox liver, balance e and maintain erectile function -- VERY IMPORTANT when recovering. It keep the hormonal system working and that keeps the body making testosterone.

Step Five: Use Forma- Stanzol to keep Estro on check. If you're ultra sensitive to estrogen sides, add a tiny bit of aromasin. That's all you need.

Steo Six: Follow with BRIDGE to keep that "on" feeling.

GOAL: I want to gain some Lean Muscle Mass, get nice vascularity and Ripped.

Here is another idead i had for a cycle
Cycle:
Week 1-6 Tbol 60 mg ED
Week 1-16 test cyp 270 mgs PW, Masteron 700-800 mgs PW, primo 500 mgs PW

What are you suggestion for a nice stack And at what doses, i included a pic of me.

I Heard about also primo instead of winny what are the pros and cons?

**ROID** · 02-17-2011, 07:08 AM

You look pretty thick.

What is you cycle experience ? gives dosages and duration, not just the compounds you have used.

My suggestion:

1-16 test E or Cyp 750mg EW
1-16 EQ 600mg EW
1-6 dbol 50mg ED
12-17 Tren A 50mg ED
ldex @ .5mg EOD or aromasin @ 12.5mg EOD
hcg 500iu 1-16
PCT-- whatever you think is best. Don't use nolvadex.

this is just an idea. it really depends on what you have done in the past.

What is going to be most important is you diet and training.

I'm not a fan of masteron and unless you can get schering primo i wouldn't bother. Winny is hard on the joints for some people. trenbolone is as well but for me, lean and vascularity = TREN

**cutright** · 02-17-2011, 07:13 AM

^^^^Thats good advice from ROID....^^^^^

**GMO** · 02-17-2011, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by ROID

You look pretty thick.

What is you cycle experience ? gives dosages and duration, not just the compounds you have used.

My suggestion:

1-16 test E or Cyp 750mg EW
1-16 EQ 600mg EW
1-6 dbol 50mg ED
12-17 Tren A 50mg ED
ldex @ .5mg EOD or aromasin @ 12.5mg EOD
hcg 500iu 1-16
PCT-- whatever you think is best. Don't use nolvadex.

this is just an idea. it really depends on what you have done in the past.

What is going to be most important is you diet and training.

I'm not a fan of masteron and unless you can get schering primo i wouldn't bother. Winny is hard on the joints for some people. trenbolone is as well but for me, lean and vascularity = TREN

That's a great cycle Roid...you da man!

The only thing I would change is I would run the Tren 10-16, so that the receptors are completely clear of Tren before Test. 19-nors can make PCT a bitch.

**R305Builder** · 02-17-2011, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by ROID

You look pretty thick.

What is you cycle experience ? gives dosages and duration, not just the compounds you have used.

My suggestion:

1-16 test E or Cyp 750mg EW
1-16 EQ 600mg EW
1-6 dbol 50mg ED
12-17 Tren A 50mg ED
ldex @ .5mg EOD or aromasin @ 12.5mg EOD
hcg 500iu 1-16
PCT-- whatever you think is best. Don't use nolvadex.

this is just an idea. it really depends on what you have done in the past.

What is going to be most important is you diet and training.

I'm not a fan of masteron and unless you can get schering primo i wouldn't bother. Winny is hard on the joints for some people. trenbolone is as well but for me, lean and vascularity = TREN

Awesome man i really like that cycle.

The cycles i have done have been for about 8 wks of Sust 500mg/wk & Deca 500mg/wk also.

I have never really done it "the right way", so i am doing my research and gonna take the plunge.

i really appreciate the info guys the forum is the BEST!

**GMO** · 02-17-2011, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by R305Builder

Awesome man i really like that cycle.

The cycles i have done have been for about 8 wks of Sust 500mg/wk & Deca 500mg/wk also.

I have never really done it "the right way", so i am doing my research and gonna take the plunge.

i really appreciate the info guys the forum is the BEST!

Yeah...Deca is just getting going in eight weeks. Glad you are doing some research and getting it right this time. Good luck bro...

**SloppyJ** · 02-26-2011, 11:56 AM

Im torn between a cycle like Roid posted up or a simple Deca/Test one. Decisions......

**D-Lats** · 02-26-2011, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Im torn between a cycle like Roid posted up or a simple Deca/Test one. Decisions......

I like deca and test I blow up on it but if your looking to keep a lean hard look there are definitely better option IMO

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