Thread: Testosterone Phenylpropinate (TPP)

Originally Posted by DEE151

i have herd this stuff is like prop but has to be injected every 3 days?
so will this stuff still be good to kick start a cycle if you take it since it's like prop?

4.5 days..it's a little longer than prop. so IMO it's a little better than the longer esters such as cyp. less water retention also. why dont you just use a oral to jump start?

Originally Posted by weightslayer

4.5 days..it's a little longer than prop. so IMO it's a little better than the longer esters such as cyp. less water retention also. why dont you just use a oral to jump start?

Phynelprop is heavier than Cyp or Enan. I've read it's roughly 64mg's of free test per 100mg. Compared to prop's 88~.

Originally Posted by weightslayer

4.5 days..it's a little longer than prop. so IMO it's a little better than the longer esters such as cyp. less water retention also. why dont you just use a oral to jump start?

i was just curious about it. i have plenty of gear right now and orals to.

just next time wen ever i plan on ordering another cycle I would like to try this stuff it does sound better then test e N c

Originally Posted by DEE151

it does sound better then test e N c

Why?

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Why?

why not?
the compound will kick in faster and U will see results faster then e or c plus start your pct sooner to.

Originally Posted by DEE151

why not?
the compound will kick in faster and U will see results faster then e or c plus start your pct sooner to.

yep. and less water retention, as with prop. and here's some info i drug up for ya on this compound:
I was using it at 200 mg every other day, and found that was enough to raise my testosterone levels to roughly 1.5x the high end of normal.
My gains on this type of testosterone were typical of any kind of testosterone I have ever used (regardless of ester) although the water retention was similar to propionate (low).
Although it wasn’t necessary, I chose to inject every other day although the active life of this compound would have allowed me to inject once every third or even fourth day. It’s a natural match in a cycle with Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, as both can be injected on the same day with the same frequency.
Since water retention is low with this compound, it is probably the most versatile form of esterified testosterone available on the market…it builds mass like the long esters, doesn’t require very frequent injections, and doesn’t cause water retention like cypionate or enanthate.

Ive been wanting to do TPP for my next cycle but my source doesn't carry it. If anyone knows of a site that carries it could you Pm it to me?

Originally Posted by weightslayer

yep. and less water retention, as with prop. and here's some info i drug up for ya on this compound:
I was using it at 200 mg every other day, and found that was enough to raise my testosterone levels to roughly 1.5x the high end of normal.
My gains on this type of testosterone were typical of any kind of testosterone I have ever used (regardless of ester) although the water retention was similar to propionate (low).
Although it wasn’t necessary, I chose to inject every other day although the active life of this compound would have allowed me to inject once every third or even fourth day. It’s a natural match in a cycle with Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, as both can be injected on the same day with the same frequency.
Since water retention is low with this compound, it is probably the most versatile form of esterified testosterone available on the market…it builds mass like the long esters, doesn’t require very frequent injections, and doesn’t cause water retention like cypionate or enanthate.

you know what I am talking about thank you. I really want to try this stuff out real bad. this test sounds really bomb
sloppy j does not know what he is talking about. this stuff will be great in a cutting cycle and a bulk cycle U cant go wrong with TPP

do any sponsors on this site sell TPP, and how many mg/ml does this stuff come dose at?

It's a HEAVIER ester than Test E or C. From the limited research I've done it will take LONGER to kick in. I believe it's prop with an extra phenyl bond on it. That makes sense from the name. I'm not big on the chemistry but that's all I know about this.

Injects could be 2x/week.

Originally Posted by DEE151

i have herd this stuff is like prop but has to be injected every 3 days?
so will this stuff still be good to kick start a cycle if you take it since it's like prop?

Originally Posted by weightslayer

4.5 days..it's a little longer than prop. so IMO it's a little better than the longer esters such as cyp. less water retention also. why dont you just use a oral to jump start?

wrong; still needs EOD. The phenyl ring adds no degree of unsaturation to the steroid other than molecular weight, aka less free test per gram than test prop. It decreases fat solubility and actually increases activity vs. prop ester. Stick to using the isocap ester if you want something longer than prop and shorter than e/c

does this type of testosterone affect your penis in any way?

^^Fag.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

^^Fag.

seems like you like to hide in the closet. You werent calling me a fag when i was pushing your shit in. I believe you were saying "daddy".

Originally Posted by jlacap

seems like you like to hide in the closet. You werent calling me a fag when i was pushing your shit in. I believe you were saying "daddy".

Yup im the one who talks about penis' in every post.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

^^Fag.

Originally Posted by DEE151

sloppy j does not know what he is talking about.

Do some research about the ester bro.

Originally Posted by Beejis60

wrong; still needs EOD. The phenyl ring adds no degree of unsaturation to the steroid other than molecular weight, aka less free test per gram than test prop. It decreases fat solubility and actually increases activity vs. prop ester. Stick to using the isocap ester if you want something longer than prop and shorter than e/c

this does not need to be inject EOD

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Do some research about the ester bro.

and here is your reserch.

Testosterone is a hormone produced predominantly in the testes of males. It is responsible for nearly all of the sexual traits in males. This specific version is Testosterone with the Phenylpropionate ester attached. It has an active life of 4-5 day. Release time-wise, it is directly in the middle of the Propionate (short) and Cypionate (long) versions of Testosterone. It is recommended to inject this version two times per week, although many prefer every third day.

Background
Testosterone was first synthesized by being isolated from bulls’ testicles in 1935. Many pharmaceutical forms and derivatives have been created since.
This version of Testosterone was originally manufactured by the Sicomed Pharmaceutical house under the brand name, “Testolent.” For many years, Testosterone Phenylpropionate was difficult to obtain but has recently been made more available by underground labs.
Steroid Action
Testosterone is responsible for promoting health and well-being through enhanced libido, energy, immunity, increased fat loss, gaining and maintaining lean muscle mass, preventing Osteoporosis (loss of bone density) and possible protection against heart disease. Testosterone is also responsible for normal growth and development of male sex organs and maintenance of secondary sex characteristics. Secondary sex characteristics are specific traits that separate the two sexes, but are not directly part of the reproductive system, for example: chest and facial hair, a distinguished jaw line, broad shoulders and increased muscle mass. Testosterone binds to the Androgen Receptors (AR), which thus causes accelerated muscle gain, fat loss, and muscle repair and growth. These mechanisms are stimulated by activation of the Androgen Receptors (either directly or as DHT).
There are many possible side-effects associated with its use. This product also has a high level of aromatization into estrogen and coverts to DHT (dihydrotestosterone) as well. Conversion to estrogen, the female sex hormone, creates a high risk of gynecomastia (formation of breast tissue in males) and water retention.
Supplementing Testosterone into your body will result in the shutting down of the body's natural production of the hormone. The severity of side effects depend mostly on the dose and duration of circulating free testosterone and its conversion to substrates. Testosterone's anabolic/androgenic effects are dependant upon dosage, therefore, the higher the dose the higher the muscle building effect. Testosterone also promotes aggressive and dominant behavior.
Testosterone is possibly the best mass builder known to man and recommended as the base of any mass building cycle.
Technical Data
Testosterone's anabolic/androgenic effects are dependant upon the dose administered; usually the higher the dose, the better the results (1). In a study done on Testosterone (Enanthate), a dose as high as 600 mg's (per week) produced better results in subjects compared to those who received lower doses. At the highest dose, 600 mg/week, the greatest results were achieved in comparison to any of the lower doses studied. The highest fat loss, most muscle growth, and increased size and strength were achieved at the higher dose (2). In the same study, HDL cholesterol was lowered and the subjects experienced acne. There was roughly a 15% gain in Lean Body Mass from 20 weeks of 600 mg/week of Testosterone therapy.
Overall, the most common report by subjects using testosterone was immense gains in strength (3) as well as alterations in size, shape, and appearance of the muscle (4).
Due to stimulation of the Androgen Receptors (either directly or as DHT), accelerated muscle gain, fat loss, increased muscle repair and growth was experienced (5),(6). Testosterone binds to the A.R. on fat cells; therefore, adipose (fat) tissue can be broken down more readily while new fat formation is prevented (7). Since the body is building muscle at an accelerated rate, more ingested food is shuttled directly to the muscle tissue (this is known as nutrient portioning) and away from fat. This is another indirect effect of testosterone on fat loss. Testosterone also promotes glycogen synthesis, which is activated by insulin in response to high glucose levels (8). Glycogen provides fuel to the muscle; therefore endurance and strength increases were reported during severe muscle breakdown in intense training and workouts.
User Notes
I recently had the opportunity to try Testosterone Phenylpropionate in one of my cycles. I think that the primary advantage of this stuff is that underground manufacturers are not scared to dose it at 200 mg/ml, unlike other short(ish) esters like propionate…where 100 mg/ml is the typical dose.
I was using it at 200 mg every other day, and found that was enough to raise my testosterone levels to roughly 1.5x the high end of normal.
My gains on this type of testosterone were typical of any kind of testosterone I have ever used (regardless of ester) although the water retention was similar to propionate (low).
Although it wasn’t necessary, I chose to inject every other day although the active life of this compound would have allowed me to inject once every third or even fourth day. It’s a natural match in a cycle with Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, as both can be injected on the same day with the same frequency.
Since water retention is low with this compound, it is probably the most versatile form of esterified testosterone available on the market…it builds mass like the long esters, doesn’t require very frequent injections, and doesn’t cause water retention like cypionate or enanthate.

References

1. J Lab Clin Med. 1995 Mar;125(3):326-33.
2. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2001 Dec;281(6):E1172-81.
3. J Lab Clin Med. 1995 Mar;125(3):326-33.
4. Am J Physiol. 1998 Nov;275(5 Pt 1):E864-712
5. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1997 Feb;82(2):407-13
6. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2002 Mar;282(3):E601-7.
7. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2004 May;7(3):271-7.
8. Curr Pharm Biotechnol. 2004 Oct;5(5):459-70.
9. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2004 Oct;89(10):5245-55.

show me were in here it needs to be injected EOD?
yes it is stated that he did inject EOD, but it does not have to be inject EOD.

Everything I've said is confirmed by that research. Thanks.