Thread: Human Grade,UGL,Vet or Pharmacy Grade

wp i have and will never have nothing good to say about u again as u no why. if u send a expired susp then say u cant send another its fishy . now i would order from u if i new the 22g would not get clogged. i sent roid to u and kirkb so if u think iam doing it again ur nuts. ur products are ugl and if not why is it so hard to draw a ml of susp out of vial , wat no micronized? another thing i asked you if u could send a dated one and ill give one not open back to u u said no and i gave u alot of business and u call me a liar prince will say anything for u wp . but not rip his members off . but u should stand up and ill return expired susp unopened to see if its good if yes i order more if like this time no way and i gave u props u said i didnt help u much ok smartasses if u sink then drowned.

It seems like a lot of these sponsors are the same sponsors on other boards as well so I'm sure this is no the only place people have complained. I agree with charging people money to view the results but the paying sponsors that are not up to par would be gone and that's less revenue. It's easy for some people to turn a blind eye to stuff like this as long as they have something to gain from it. 1 of 3 is not very good odds and it would've been 1-4 if the sponsor had not waited more than 22 days to pick up my cash. I'm sure some members receive good products,as did I on 1 occasion but order from the same company and get shit. 60ml's of bunk gear sux & I made a ticket & submitted it but I'm still waiting on a response. Since no source names have been posted I don't think it's a violation. Just look at the new members section of potential buyers. It is the same process. They will order,get ripped,complain then be lost without being heard then by that time new members will be doing the same thing.If at all possible, I will take it upon myself to prevent them from getting screwed like I did. I received some fake money orders in the mail for 5 g's the other day. I could've cashed them at my bank they looked so legit. The sender wanted a portion of it in return. If I had done this, I would've gotten the cash,sent them their portion then a couple weeks later the bank would've caught it and my account would've been billed & I would be held responsible,not to mention maybe even some type of charges filed with the police. So how's this any different? The only difference is the sponsors know we cannot go to LO because of the nature of the transaction. Nonetheless they are still scamming us.We can't file a complaint against them with the BBB but I'm surprised someone hasn't filed 1 against IM for promoting these sponsors. I like IM just as much as the next person but there needs to be some accountability here. If anyone has used a sponsor and gotten legit gear 5 of 5 times please PM me.
SO here's the sponsors reply after I submitted a ticket explaining my concerns about their gear-"You are kidding me right?This is first time ever i heard this!!!!READ THE FEEDBACK ON THE BOARDS !!! Nice reply, I appreciate the help.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

If the sponsers are selling legit gear. Then they should all come back relatively equal, right and the ones who don't come back good should not be sponsering the site. What is more important. Alot of the members pay to support the board too it isn't just the sponsers. If they aren't living up to their end of the deal then they should not be here, end of story.. It doesn't matter to me how much money they are giving that doesn't make it right to sell fake shit that could harm members. If you had a section for testing products you could charge people to view each section so the only way you could compare all of them would be to buy them all which would earn the site a lot of money. If you wanted to check out WP products you could buy the test results for each individual supp they carry. So in the end it would be hard to say this one is better than this one. If a sponser comes up short they shouldn't even be included in this section at all because the site should either put them on probationary status or kick them off for good. I love this site and I am just throwing out an idea that I believe would make it one step above other sites and worth spending money to be a part of. Everyone would benefit except the ones who don't deserve to because they are selling bunk products. The site would make more money through members spending more money to view results and you must be a elite member to even have the opportunity to pay to see results. The sponsers shouldn't have nothing to worry about because all tests of their products should be relatively close in quality anyway if they are legit. I don't mean to make anyone feel like I am not supporting the site because I feel like it is the opposite I want to help the site make more money and do it all while protecting the members. No other forum or site could come close to this.

^This is a good idea IMO!

Sponsors who sell shit or scam shouldn't be sponsors...

That's equivalent to putting sexual predators in child care positions...

Oh and to the OP, if you can get your hands on Vet gear, I would use it.

I used Vet gear from Mexico exclusively during the 1999-2002 seasons and loved it...

But then again, I was going down there myself and getting it direct too...

Some times vet gear has bigger particles and can cause irritation. Also it sometimes has a lower dose per mL forcing you to use more oil which can cause issues. If you can get HG that is your best bet for sure.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

Some times vet gear has bigger particles and can cause irritation. Also it sometimes has a lower dose per mL forcing you to use more oil which can cause issues. If you can get HG that is your best bet for sure.

Definitely. I'm just saying I trust mexican vet over ugl. personal opinion

It seems like alot of u that have posted here are happy with these sponsors tho. Is it just hit & miss? And by HG are u saying to go with a company like scherring or organon? I noticed a good deal on 50 amps from a sponsor here but then I was told the amps can be faked as well. Can anyone tell me if they come with a way 2 check authenticity? Then again I guess you could reproduce that too.

Originally Posted by bigedawg23

It seems like alot of u that have posted here are happy with these sponsors tho. Is it just hit & miss? And by HG are u saying to go with a company like scherring or organon? I noticed a good deal on 50 amps from a sponsor here but then I was told the amps can be faked as well. Can anyone tell me if they come with a way 2 check authenticity? Then again I guess you could reproduce that too.

I am refering to Schering, Organon, Iburaihan iran makes a generic HG test, Qpharma spain, Norma Hellas, and Jelfa are a few HG companies. There are individual traits about each one of these companies that make it possible to tell the difference between real , fake, or counterfeit in most cases. You have to research the company you plan to buy from so you know what to look for. These companies are most sought after by counterfeiters because they bring in the most profit. These are the products people want to buy. Vet quality products like those that roughneck 91 was speaking of used to be very common in the U.S. before operation gear grinder. After this bust they have been very scarce. UGLs I have had good success with some UGLs. You have to be careful to make sure you choose a good company. UGLs are sometimes hit or miss. The quality is not at the same standard as HG which can be dangerous at times. Be careful when deciding which to go with. Safety is worth paying a little extra for. There are also visual techniques you can use to check for quality. If you are a member on Ironmag.com you can check william Llewellyn's bood Underground anabolics pages 137 and 138. The book is located under the elite member Anabolics section under AAS books. Very informative info on ways to spot flaws with products.

Originally Posted by ROID

maybe just test brands and not sponsors. Too many people are complaining about there products. I know most are just complaining but there are a few people here that have been around a while and they even have complaints about certain products.


Hurt the board or not. If I knew a sponsor was selling sub par gear I would have to tell people. Money is not important to me.

Being a good person has never cost me money. We do really well for ourselves.

Maybe I should take it on myself and blackmail Prince

The way to do it would be have a semi-private (so google doesn't pick it up and non-members can't look in) message forum where you pay say $25-50/year to be a member. Use the money to test batches and brands of gear.

Originally Posted by Big Pimpin

The way to do it would be have a semi-private (so google doesn't pick it up and non-members can't look in) message forum where you pay say $25-50/year to be a member. Use the money to test batches and brands of gear.

Uh... if I'm breaking a rule here, I am sorry, but I have to say STAY AWAY FROM SE.....

A bunch of scam fuck suppliers run this board and I got ripped off twice (1 from source and 1 from the fuck site itself)...

Wish I had spent the money here...

Originally Posted by Roughneck_91

Uh... if I'm breaking a rule here, I am sorry, but I have to say STAY AWAY FROM SE.....

A bunch of scam fuck suppliers run this board and I got ripped off twice (1 from source and 1 from the fuck site itself)...

Wish I had spent the money here...

Me 2 Bro....but the sponsors I've used here are hit & miss too. I wish someone would pm me a definite,legit source that has quality human grade gear.

A thread with some realiable sources would be very benificial to some of us new people

Originally Posted by bigedawg23

Me 2 Bro....but the sponsors I've used here are hit & miss too. I wish someone would pm me a definite,legit source that has quality human grade gear.

x2

So who got the best for human gear am tired of using lointest seamen for gear or deca sharkseamen

Originally Posted by Roughneck_91

Sponsors who sell shit or scam shouldn't be sponsors...

That's equivalent to putting sexual predators in child care positions...

not quite lol. it's more like putting sexual predators in a room with prostitutes.

Originally Posted by Diesel618

not quite lol. it's more like putting sexual predators in a room with prostitutes.

Well put my friend!

I understand we can't talk about sources in the open due to the problems it may cause but then if we post what happen to us by a certain sponsor we are bashing. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the ones that can get good gear from them,hell jealous even but if someone burns me on here them sits back and laughs about it(in my case they said "are u kidding" then I will do my best to make sure noone else gets burned by them. I thought that was 1 of the reasons members post here? So I don't see how it's a problem. If enough people call out sponsors for bad gear in open threads then maybe others will see it and not take any chances. If I don't get a response from the 1 that burned me for 60-70 ml's then I will be posting names. I'm trying to handle it thru submitting tickets,pm's,etc...hell I even offered to send the gear back but we'll see.