Thread: possable freak !

Everyone reacts differently there is no rule that it will take 4-5 weeks to see results BUT if you are not using an AI then that 15 pounds is mostly WATER, i generally gain 8-12 pounds in the first 3 weeks if i am not using AI's..

maby but i dont think so ?I seem to be losing fat also my waistline is smaller but went fro 250 to 266? I feel great thats why I sorta cant beleve it -but the gym scale is always correct you know the good kind with little weights! anyhow I have always been gifted at sports but I never expected this! I have enough test-E for 10 weeks also enough equoise for 4 weeks I lift verry hard rest well and eat well no stress.I wonder how far is possable? thanks for the input.Iv been studing this quite a lot as of late

EQ for four weeks isn't going to do anything aside from use up needles.

You definetly have to be holding water. That is not totally bad though. The water helps u gain strength. Test E peaks in the first 24-72 hrs. So it all depends on how quickly your body reacts to it. Glad to hear you are making progress already stay at. Hopefully you will continue to make gains for the rest of your cycle.

You should try to get at least enough eq to last the same as your test otherwise I would just save it.

How much EQ exactly do you have for 4 weeks? That is, how many mgs per week? EQ is best done with test for an extended cycle of at least 12 weeks, preferably 14-16+. Also, EQ should be taken 400mg EW if you havent' used it before.

Thanks for the help-I have #1 10 ml equipose.should I just save it as you say or mix it in with the test-e 250 10 ml? thanks a lot im really getting fired up for this i cant beleve I fell for the baloney that this is bad-if this is bad I dont wanna be good-I just got back from the gym and all I want to do is go back!I just ate 10 tacos and a gallon of milk!! this is crazy! ps so I have 10 mill EQ 200 and 20 mill test 250 I was just gonna mix it in to one 3mill shot in glute #1 per wk untill its gone?what do ya think?

Post pictures.

Dude you didnt gain 16lbs of muscle if thats what you are thinking. There is whats called a placebo effect especially when its your first cycle. Train hard dont eat shit like ten tacos after a work out and you will get good gains. save the eq or buy some more these guys know what they are talking about so listen and dont waste your time or money.

10-4 on that ill read more and type less!!

you need to go at least 12 weeks in my opinion 400 on the low side 600 on the high

Originally Posted by David Fasnacht

you need to go at least 12 weeks in my opinion 400 on the low side 600 on the high

you gained 14 of water no way its muscle but keep lifting train hard and eat right

Originally Posted by oden

Thanks for the help-I have #1 10 ml equipose.should I just save it as you say or mix it in with the test-e 250 10 ml? thanks a lot im really getting fired up for this i cant beleve I fell for the baloney that this is bad-if this is bad I dont wanna be good-I just got back from the gym and all I want to do is go back!I just ate 10 tacos and a gallon of milk!! this is crazy! ps so I have 10 mill EQ 200 and 20 mill test 250 I was just gonna mix it in to one 3mill shot in glute #1 per wk untill its gone?what do ya think?

Add more EQ or don't run it and put it away towards another cycle in which you have at least two more 10ml vials of EQ making 3 total vials (6000mg total).
Just continue with the Test only cycle for now. Nothing wrong with a test only cycle. Easy on the Tacos unless they are specially prepared with lean beef/turkey minus the sour cream and other crap. But ten is excessive. Your weight gain is a lot of water but if you cycle right, you won't end up a papaer tiger - you'll end up the real thing.

Originally Posted by David Fasnacht

you need to go at least 12 weeks in my opinion 400 on the low side 600 on the high

Most people will tell you 10 weeks on test is more than enough, esp for a first cycle.

8 weeks of test prop would even be better.

Thanks for the help maby it was water gain and the placbo effect also? O well it sure did feel good to feel young again. ill see how it goes at the gym today. SEEK & DESTROY !!

Originally Posted by oden

Thanks for the help maby it was water gain and the placbo effect also? O well it sure did feel good to feel young again. ill see how it goes at the gym today. SEEK & DESTROY !!

Thats right dude.. who gives a fuck why you feel good... Enjoy it, and go destroy! BEAST MODE!

This is my first time pumping or working at getting fit, the doc said that I was low on test and due for a heart attack, put me on test cyp @ 200/month and started me working out. I am 48, fat, looking for helpful suggestions.

Test will make you feel better! dont get to crazy in the gym start slow and stick with it ! good luck-try dave draper.com

I like you already FLAWELESS good attatude! remember what KROM said to KONAN -what dosent kill you makes you stronger!!!!

^^ nice!

Originally Posted by oden

This is my first post-52yrs old 6-4 250lbs. lifting on & off for years. started 1st cycle of test-E only last monday-lots of study says no results for 2 wks-today is sat and just beat all my lifts in the gym this morning! also gained 15lbs!! this dosent seem possable to me but there it is. any comments.

Are you using an aromatase inhibitor? You definitely do not want a lot of estrogen especially at your age as it can contribute toward BPH and gynecomastia along with other estrogen side effects.

^^^^^This big time.

back from gym. squats & dead lifts. same body weight. Aromatose inhibitor? BPH? ill look that up. the boys at the gym who set me up said nothing about this.but they never come off cycle at all! they been doing it for years and they look great-I was wondering about that stuff anyway -ill see about it.I guess I ant that smart ,just an ageing construction worker who likes to pump iron & thinks ageing sucks!!

Oden,

I like your attitude. At your age, I don't think you need to come off either. You would do well taking .25mgs of Arimidex every day or 12.5mgs of Aromasin (I use Aromasin). The guys at your gym might not have AI's

Originally Posted by oden

back from gym. squats & dead lifts. same body weight. Aromatose inhibitor? BPH? ill look that up. the boys at the gym who set me up said nothing about this.but they never come off cycle at all! they been doing it for years and they look great-I was wondering about that stuff anyway -ill see about it.I guess I ant that smart ,just an ageing construction worker who likes to pump iron & thinks ageing sucks!!

Im gad your doing good bro but you desperatily need better info! keep you the great work! and listen to guys on here!

thanks for the help I looked in to 6-0x0-or formadex .also saw pomento & vit c & E my budjet is low-ill try to find this stuff-do you have to have it? can I just stay on as you say ? why is it ok at my age? no my buds dont do it-they are early forties,sometimes there behavior is a little werd! aggresive -but its cool at work you know hard work and all .we dont go for sissies & whiners to much! off point I guess . Ill study more and do more squats! over.

I know im gonna look stupid on this one butt-----what the heck are reputation numbers? I tried to figure it out -stone age man new to this stuff.?ill wait a week and report on test E cycle progress.

im using eq for the first time at 300 mg every 6 days its working great i no any lower would be a waste tho some people even say 300 is to low but its working for me for 16 weeks to for maximal effects any less that 12 is a waste