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**redmond3** · 02-19-2011, 02:34 PM

Quick overview, i have been working out for about 3 years total, this last year is where i have made my gains. I'm looking to hit 180 and 200 possibly, i first started off at 110lbs i know how sad then i decided to get into weightlifting, and dieting, I'm currently 156. I was 166 before i left on winter break and since i worked all break long my diet went to shit and no gym then dropped to 143 so its been 4 weeks and i have gained 13lbs this month. I want to take a bulking steriod i have been looking and doing some research, and if anyone can help i would really appreciate it alot...I turn 21 on july here is my stats, workout, and diet

height- 5 9
weight- 156
chest- 38
bodyfat- 4.6
shoulders- 18
thighs- 21
calves- 14
arms- 14.5
forearm- 11.5
neck- 15

workout, adding weight each set

Monday/Thursday- Chest/Back/Abs
• Chest
o DB bench press 4x8
o Incline DB press 4x8
o Chest fly machine 4x10
o Parallel Dips 4x8
• Back
o Barbell row 4x8-10
o Seated row 4x8
o Deadlift 4x8-10
o Wide grip chin ups, or Lat pulldowns 4x10
• Monday- Abs
o Roman Chairs 4x30
o Hanging ab crunch 4x15
o Obliques 4x20
• Cardio
o 1 mile

Tuesday/Friday- Shoulders/Bi/Tri/Forearm
• Shoulders
o Seated Military press 4x8
o Arnold press 4x8
o Behind Head press 4x8
o Bent over DB laterals 4x10
• Bicep
o Do 4 sets total, do 8 reps of narrow grip, then do as many as you can of wide grip barbell curls. That’s 1 set. Then do it again. When you finish your second set, do the wide grip barbell curl first do 8 reps then right away switch to narrow grip barbell curls and do as many as you can. Do 2 sets of these total. So all together you should have done 4 sets total.
o Hammer curls 4x8
• Tricep
o Weighted Dips- come down to a 90 degree angle 4x8
o Above head rope extensions- 4x8-10
o Palm facing up cable kickbacks- 4x8-10
• Forearms
o Reverse barbell curl 4x8-10
o Behind back barbell curl 4x8-10
o Barbell Wrist curls 4x10 palm down
• Friday-abs
o Roman Chairs 4x30
o Hanging ab crunch 4x15
o Obliques 4x20

• Cardio
o 1 mile

Wednesday- cardio/abs day
o Roman Chairs 4x30
o Hanging ab crunch 4x15
o Obliques 4x20
cardio- 1.5 miles

Saturday- legs/calves
• quads
o squats 4x10
o leg press 4x10
o leg extensions 4x8-10
• hamstring
o leg curl 12x10
• calves
o leg press machine do calves 3xfailure (feet straight), 3xfailure feet inward, 3xfailure feet outward

o calf machine 4xfailure

diet

MEAL 1 (scrambled eggs + milk + bread + vitamin + oj + fish oil)

- 5 eggs
- 1 cups of oj
- 2 slices of bread
- 1 optin men vitamin
- 2 cup of water
- 1 fish oil

calories- 771
protein- 43g
carbs- 65g

MEAL 2 (Homemade weight gainer + water)

- 1 scoop of whey
- 2 cups of milk
- 2 tablesppons of peanut butter
- 1 bannana
- 1 cups of water

calories- 656
protein- 50g
carbs- 56g

MEAL 3 (MAC AND CHEESE + water + vitamin + vienna sasuage + fish oil)

- 1 box mac&cheese
- 2 cups of water
- 1 opti men vitamin
- 1 can of vienna sasuage
- 1 fish oil

calories- 1490
protein- 39g
carbs- 144g

MEAL 4 (Tuna fish + apple + water + cheese)

- 2 cans of tuna fish
- 2.5 cups of water
- 1 apple
- 2 slices of cheese

calories- 355
protein- 55g
carbs- 17g

MEAL 5 (Chicken breast + beans + water)

- 1 chicken breast 4oz
- 1 cup of soy beans
- 2 cups of water

calories- 447
protein- 51g
carbs- 20g

MEAL 6 (Homemade Weight gainer + water + vitamin + fish oil)

- 1 scoop of whey
- 2 cups of milk
- 2 tblespoons of peanut butter
- 1 banana
- 1 cup of water
- 1 fish oil
- 1 opti men vitamin

calories- 656
protein- 50g
carbs- 56g

detour lean muscle bar
400 calories
32grams of protein
33grams of carbs

TOTAL rough estimate

CALORIES- 4765
PROTEIN- 320g
CARBS- 380g

**JCBourne** · 02-19-2011, 03:10 PM

Holy bat man dude, you are doing WAY too many movements in one day. You need to split up your muscle groups more.

4.5% BF? I got to see pics of this.

If you have been doing some research then you should know what a good first cycle is for bulking, dont expect to be spoon fed.

**VictorZ06** · 02-19-2011, 03:20 PM

He sent me his stats via PM, I told him to double check his BF%. Also told him to do test only cycle first time around.

/V

**redmond3** · 02-19-2011, 04:07 PM

i was reading all day, looks like dbol, and test cy

50mg ED- DBOL
500mg EW- TEST CY

**redmond3** · 02-19-2011, 04:08 PM

Sorry i checked it and it said 7.5 scratch the 4.6

**JCBourne** · 02-19-2011, 06:08 PM

Sounds like a good cycle. Test c or e, whichever doesn't really matter just go for the better deal if there is one.

**VictorZ06** · 02-19-2011, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by redmond3

Sorry i checked it and it said 7.5 scratch the 4.6

Still low, impressive. How did you have it checked? Calipers?

/V

**ROID** · 02-19-2011, 06:38 PM

You are just making up numbers now.

I doubt anything you have said is true other than you weigh 140 pounds.

Testosterone E or C for 12 weeks
AI- adex or aromasin
HCG 500 iu weekly

**redmond3** · 02-19-2011, 07:15 PM

i have this body fat reader, i paid alot for it, i know its not 100% accurate...my measurements are 100% correct, except my body percentage which can be off

**redmond3** · 02-19-2011, 07:18 PM

do you know of any cheap sites to buy these from? I found biogengear, and world pharm so far

**VictorZ06** · 02-19-2011, 07:26 PM

7.5%, 4.6%....these are numbers you get by dydrostatic weighing, BodPom, or by b impedance analysis. One method requires you to be completely submerged in the water and breath out all your, it takes about 4 to 5 trys. BodPom is another method to get such accurate readings, but instead of being dunked underwater, you place your entire body inside of an air chamber. These are the only methods that can provide such specific readings. Thus, the reason why ROID said you are just making up numbers now.

/V

**VictorZ06** · 02-19-2011, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by redmond3

do you know of any cheap sites to buy these from? I found biogengear, and world pharm so far

Please do not ask for sources. Kindly read the rules before you further post.

***Please Read The Rules***

/V

**redmond3** · 02-19-2011, 07:50 PM

got it, sorry.. thanks for the help everyone i will research for another month

**VictorZ06** · 02-19-2011, 07:52 PM

Wise move.

/V

**TGB1987** · 02-19-2011, 08:02 PM

You should keep training naturally before using AAS. You want to get as far as you can without AAS. That way you will make the most of your potential. You have a long way to go yet. Why would you want to short yourself. Once you start taking AAS your natural test may never be the same again. There is a lot to learn. New shit comes out everyday. Keep training and when you feel like you have been stuck for a couple months and you have tryed everything else and you are still stuck then consider AAS. Until then continue to read and learn from books and the forums. If this is something you really enjoy learning about it can be very enjoyable.

**redmond3** · 02-19-2011, 11:49 PM

thats what I'm going to do, i should be able to hit 180 with my new gvt training routine given to be by Victor. I will hit it hard and I'm sure results will be seen. If i came from 110 im sure i can do anything

thanks again

**redmond3** · 02-20-2011, 09:53 AM

Thanks, glad to be part of this IM community lots of useful info on here sure beats alot of websites! I decided to not take any roids, starting Monday I'm going to do this gvt routine my friend gave me, looks pretty intense. Probably going to be the most promising so far! I will try and edit my diet, add some extra clean calories. I actually have 2 months left in the body building 12 week transformation contest. These last 2 weeks I have been really busy and diet hasn't been 100% but I still saw weight gain and increases in my measurements when I first started. Up 14lbs in the first month. So I'm pretty happy, this next month my goal is to hit 10 lbs shouldn't be hard! There was this fat ass guy at the gym the other day I thibk he was mocking me... He looks like the mitchelon man < most likely spelled that wrong the guy is probably weights 2 times more than me and I can db bench press more than him kiss my ass bitch! He was doing 75.. Sure was havin a hard time with those. I kinda grunted a little kinda helps and my friend tells me it's light weight and he started saying ( the fat guy) come on light weight really loud .. Over and over fucking douche then when I did 90's he sure stopped talking

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