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    First Cycle Log

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    Training consistently for 5+ years
    12, maybe 13% bodyfat
    24 years old
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    Alright guys, time is drawing near to the beginning of my first cycle. I am going to try my hardest to maintain a log and update as much as I can. Like I said, this is my FIRST cycle but I have done a ton of reading and research in preparation.
    I work two very labor intensive jobs along with a super high metabolism and over the years have found my maintenance calories to be right around 3800 cals. On cycle I plan to eat right around 4500 cals daily. I could post up my diet if anyone would like to see it.

    Cycle is as follows:
    Weeks 1-12 Test Cyp. 500mg per week
    Weeks 1-XX Arimidex .25mg ED (throughout duration of cycle/PCT)
    Weeks 9-14 Winstrol 50mg ED
    PCT (starting 3 days after last dose of Winstrol:
    Week 1 Nolvadex 20mg ED/Clomid 50mg ED
    Week 2 Nolvadex 20mg ED/Clomid 50mg ED
    Week 3 Nolvadex 10mg ED/Clomid 25mg ED
    Week 4 Nolvadex 10mg ED/Clomid 25mg ED
    Week 5 Nolvadex 10mg ED

    I am hoping to do my first pin tomorrow. I am going to get the girlfriend to help me out. She is in nursing school and is comfortable around needles. I am fine with needles but would like some help atleast the first time. I have been told that the right quad is the "mandatory" spot for the first pin so I plan on doing that. Anyways, wish me luck guys and any questions or comments are welcome.

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    id say like most will scrap the Nolva for PCT run clomi
    and good luck

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    Looks good, but id keep the nolva.. just imo

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    Hey guys, I was planning on pinning delts, glutes, and quads throughout this cycle. Do you think I should stick with glutes since its my first time or alternate between them all each inject?

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    pin em all.. id say if u split pin's thn do glutes 1st one each side keep the nolva for on cycle incase u get a bad flare up of gyno but dont use it for pct plain and simple read the stickys i my self like quad pin's

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    so run the clomid just as i have outlined but take out the nolva and keep on hand? if i were to need to start using the nolva on cycle how much should i use?

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    It would be great if others would chime in here on whether or not to use nolva with clomid for my PCT or keep it around to have it on hand. BKNOXX, i believe that you know your stuff, just looking for other opinions as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManInBlack View Post
    It would be great if others would chime in here on whether or not to use nolva with clomid for my PCT or keep it around to have it on hand. BKNOXX, i believe that you know your stuff, just looking for other opinions as well.

    All you need for that cycle PCT is Clomid 100/100/75/50. You could use nolva too, but there is really no need for it.

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    GMO, if I go with your suggestion and up the dose up Clomid then I will have to make another purchase. Do you think it will be alright to just run the PCT that i orginally listed. I realize that you said that nolva isnt really needed......

    Also, if i plan on running my original PCT and end up having to use some of the nolva while on cycle, will it be ok to use it again in PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManInBlack View Post
    GMO, if I go with your suggestion and up the dose up Clomid then I will have to make another purchase. Do you think it will be alright to just run the PCT that i orginally listed. I realize that you said that nolva isnt really needed......

    Also, if i plan on running my original PCT and end up having to use some of the nolva while on cycle, will it be ok to use it again in PCT?

    I would purchase the extra clomid, as it is very cheap. This is your body, so you don't want to play around.

    Save the nolva for any gyno issues that may arise while on cycle.

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    GMO, will do man and I repped you for your responses. My girlfriend just pinned me, went pretty well. Question, i cant exactly get the top of the vial to "pop" back on, is that ok? i am wondering because of storing issues, keeping them in the closet

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    Ok just wanted to officially update:

    Pinned for the first time tonight as well as took .25mg arimidex. I plan on pinning again thursday and then getting on a monday thursday schedule. Just really wanted to get the first pin under my belt because i have nothing to do the rest of the night and will too busy tomorrow with work to have any time to do it. THE JOURNEY HAS BEGUN

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManInBlack View Post
    GMO, will do man and I repped you for your responses. My girlfriend just pinned me, went pretty well. Question, i cant exactly get the top of the vial to "pop" back on, is that ok? i am wondering because of storing issues, keeping them in the closet
    I hope you are talking about the plastic part that pops off to expose the rubber stopper that you pin. Yes? If so, that does not go back on...

    Just be sure to swab the rubber with alcohol before drawing your Test.

    If the whole top of the vial came off...you need to buy a sterile vial ASAP and transfer your test, or pre-load your syringes.

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    No man you got it, it was just the top of it, the plastic piece that comes off exposing the rubber, guess i am all good then. thanks again for the reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManInBlack View Post
    GMO, if I go with your suggestion and up the dose up Clomid then I will have to make another purchase. Do you think it will be alright to just run the PCT that i orginally listed. I realize that you said that nolva isnt really needed......

    Also, if i plan on running my original PCT and end up having to use some of the nolva while on cycle, will it be ok to use it again in PCT?
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    thanks brother. definitely will do

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    well hell, just realized there is a place for online journals, what a fucking dumbass.....mods, should i have this moved over there?

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    Update: Woke up this morning with a good amount of soreness in the glute; hurts a little when sitting down on it. However, it aint nothin too bad so im happy about that. Really looking forward to working out today. I realize the test cyp will take a few weeks to start kicking in but just knowing ive got something flowing now is messing with my mind.......in a good way. Take care

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    weight flucuates, as does everyones...mine is between 202-205, weighed in this morning at 203 so i am going to make that my official starting weight

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    alright, i realize that im small compared to most people on this board but hey i have never done a cycle before...anyways, here is a quick shot i took today while at the gym...was going to try to get a better one but people came in and i didnt want to be over there snapping pictures of myself, but anyways, here is PRE cycle ManInBlack.....and excuse the pink headphones, mine got put in the washer accidently so im wearing my girlfriends
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    what ive eaten today:

    meal 1: 3 whole eggs/2 slices wheat toast/1 packet oatmeal/multi vitamin and fishoil

    meal 2: shake with 1 cup milk/1 scoop whey/1.5 cups oats/1tbsp olive oil

    meal 3: 1.5 scoops whey

    meal 4: 1.5 cups rice/1 apple/4 ounces grilled chicken

    meal 5: 2 cups wheat pasta/2 cans tuna

    later I will have 1 cup brocolli/1 cup rice/24 almonds/4 ounces chicken
    later I will also have a peanut butter sandwich (whole wheat bread and natural peanut butter)

    and finally before bed a scoop of casein.

    i am DETERMINED to eat clean the entire duration of my cycle SO most if not all of my days will look like this. I plan on having 1 cheat meal a week and even then not going overboard with it.

    However, i do plan on upping the cals arouund week 4 or so or maybe just halfway through. What do you guys think about that? Maybe just see guage it as i go along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManInBlack View Post
    what ive eaten today:

    meal 1: 3 whole eggs/2 slices wheat toast/1 packet oatmeal/multi vitamin and fishoil

    meal 2: shake with 1 cup milk/1 scoop whey/1.5 cups oats/1tbsp olive oil

    meal 3: 1.5 scoops whey

    meal 4: 1.5 cups rice/1 apple/4 ounces grilled chicken

    meal 5: 2 cups wheat pasta/2 cans tuna

    later I will have 1 cup brocolli/1 cup rice/24 almonds/4 ounces chicken
    later I will also have a peanut butter sandwich (whole wheat bread and natural peanut butter)

    and finally before bed a scoop of casein.

    i am DETERMINED to eat clean the entire duration of my cycle SO most if not all of my days will look like this. I plan on having 1 cheat meal a week and even then not going overboard with it.

    However, i do plan on upping the cals arouund week 4 or so or maybe just halfway through. What do you guys think about that? Maybe just see guage it as i go along?
    IMO... You are only pinning 2X/EW, you don't necessarily need to pin anywhere but your glutes. But it's your call... Pinning delts & quads ain't bad...
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    cool man thanks for the help.....on thursday im going to pin the other glute and then if the original side feels good (as im sure it will) by the time my 3rd pin rolls around then ill just hit it again, but yeah, i might stick with the glutes time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMO View Post
    I hope you are talking about the plastic part that pops off to expose the rubber stopper that you pin. Yes? If so, that does not go back on...

    Just be sure to swab the rubber with alcohol before drawing your Test.

    If the whole top of the vial came off...you need to buy a sterile vial ASAP and transfer your test, or pre-load your syringes.
    Dont mean to but in but, was just wondering why you should not take the whole vial top off i know i sound like a totall amatuer and i am, but whats the harm my buddy does gear and i would see him draw up the vials he would always remove the metal casing bit and pop of the rubber stopper so the bottle was totally open noting but the glass if that makes any sense.. sorry if im over complicating a simple fuckin bottle of gear here but just want to know whats wrong with opening the whole bottle rubber stopper completly off lol... does it effect the gear in a negative way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimm View Post
    Dont mean to but in but, was just wondering why you should not take the whole vial top off i know i sound like a totall amatuer and i am, but whats the harm my buddy does gear and i would see him draw up the vials he would always remove the metal casing bit and pop of the rubber stopper so the bottle was totally open noting but the glass if that makes any sense.. sorry if im over complicating a simple fuckin bottle of gear here but just want to know whats wrong with opening the whole bottle rubber stopper completly off lol... does it effect the gear in a negative way?
    It is open to germs at that point. You are going to be injecting this into your body, so you want it to remain sterile, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzard View Post
    IMO... You are only pinning 2X/EW, you don't necessarily need to pin anywhere but your glutes. But it's your call... Pinning delts & quads ain't bad...
    I second this. I pinned just glutes. When I pinned quads the pain stayed around longer and I had trouble on leg days. Same for shoulders, they'd still be sore on shoulder day.

    How about a better pic for your starter cycle pic? Get your gf to take one.

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    thanks dudes.....LIFE, yeah man ill try and post a better pic when i can, but good lookin out

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    man i tell you guys what i cant wait for the test to kick in.....when it finally does will i "feel" it when im in the gym or will strength go up a but, size? im sure its different for everyone but how bout with you guys, what was the first thing that yall noticed?

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    I didn't notice a damn thing except the weights going up.

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    Couple questions guys:

    I decided to do a 3 day split because i work two labor intensive jobs and want to give my muscles as much time to recover as i can. Do you guys think this is a good idea or do you think doing a 4 day split wouldnt make that much of a difference?

    Another question:

    Do you guys think I should dial down the carbs a bit on OFF days or eat exactly the same everyday?

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