Aromasin, Primo, Gyno, Test....

**DaBeast25** · 02-26-2011, 10:39 AM

So I'm about two weeks in with Primo @500/week and Test P 75mg/eod.

I just start Test Enth at 125mg eod as well. Once the Prop is finished I'd like to up the Test E to 500/week for the remainder of the 12 weeks, so my question(s) are...

1) Is 25mg of aromasin/day overkill once I'm at 500mg of test/week??? (I've just now increased aromasin to 20mg eod b/c I thought my nips were getting itchy and I've had gyno problems in the past) I really think my left one is puffy too and I am paranoid about this.

2) Does Primo actually help reduce Estrogen Activity or Aromatization???
(I thought I read this somewhere b/c it's a DHT derivative, but I'm not sure)

3) What are the best ways to help dial in my AI at the right dose??? Id' imagine getting bloodwork would require several trips and I'm just not too sure about it.

I'm also starting to wonder if I shouldn't be using liquid Ancillaries..maybe that's the real problem? although they're from CEM which is supposed to be good.

Any help is really appreciated

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**cutright** · 02-26-2011, 10:46 AM

Your right about blood work..that's the only true way to get the right dose but I judge by how I feel...25 daily for me might be overkill but it might be perfect for you..just up the dose until symtoms are gone...and why are you shooting test E eod....just curious

**DaBeast25** · 02-26-2011, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by cutright

Your right about blood work..that's the only true way to get the right dose but I judge by how I feel...25 daily for me might be overkill but it might be perfect for you..just up the dose until symtoms are gone...and why are you shooting test E eod....just curious

I started the cycle with Test prop and the 5cc of primo/week is a lot of volume... so it was just easier to add the enth into my eod shots.

Once the prop is done, I'll go still go MWF just b/c of the sheer volume/week. 7cc/week

I guess I'll try 25mg eod at first then bump up if needed...I should probably look into the negatives of aromasin, b/c I think I'd rather run too much than not enough.

**Ravager** · 02-26-2011, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by cutright

Your right about blood work..that's the only true way to get the right dose but I judge by how I feel...25 daily for me might be overkill but it might be perfect for you..just up the dose until symtoms are gone...and why are you shooting test E eod....just curious

can you elaborate a little on how you feel? How do you know if you need more? how do you know if you have too much?

**DaBeast25** · 02-26-2011, 03:12 PM

So... since my last post I actually feel like my nips have been getting more itchy and I'm REALLY paranoid...

It's actually kinda comical, aside from the fact that it's really NOT funny if you catch my drift.

Anyway... taking 40mg of nolva for a few days then tapering 30/20/10 (a few days on each dose) would be fine correct??? just to play it safe

This is alongside the aromasin, I feel like some estro must have made it's way to the tissue and is already affecting it. Whereas the increased dose of aromasin will only prevent future aromatization.

**BigBlackGuy** · 02-26-2011, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by DaBeast25

So... since my last post I actually feel like my nips have been getting more itchy and I'm REALLY paranoid...

It's actually kinda comical, aside from the fact that it's really NOT funny if you catch my drift.

Anyway... taking 40mg of nolva for a few days then tapering 30/20/10 (a few days on each dose) would be fine correct??? just to play it safe

This is alongside the aromasin, I feel like some estro must have made it's way to the tissue and is already affecting it. Whereas the increased dose of aromasin will only prevent future aromatization.

16 Ways To Fight Gyno

Check this article out.

Also, if 25mg ED is what you need to stop aromatization, then so be it. Some guys only need 12.5mg EOD... lucky focks.

**BigBlackGuy** · 02-26-2011, 07:17 PM

Also you may want to take a look at a DHT prohormone or injectable/transdermal for your next cycle or later on in this cycle. DHT is going to really help keep estrogen at bay (and possibly your hair

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**DaBeast25** · 02-27-2011, 06:14 AM

Thanks, I did come across that article.

Wouldn't the Primo I'm running serve the same purpose as a dht prohormone seeing as how it's a dht derivative?

**BigBlackGuy** · 03-06-2011, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by DaBeast25

Thanks, I did come across that article.

Wouldn't the Primo I'm running serve the same purpose as a dht prohormone seeing as how it's a dht derivative?

Not really. It's going to be dry and won't aromatize, but it won't necessarily have any of the AI-like properties of actual DHT.

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