Yeah, test should be increased above the others. Clomid good for PCT. HCG not required IMO. It's nice if you have it but proper PCT should allow for ample recovery. At least in my case it does.
You are considering Winstrol? Injectable or oral? Regardless, the Winny is usually taken ED b/c it's in either an oral tablet form or in an aqueous solution (not oil-based). You might be able to get away with injectable EOD, however.
Yeah, test should be increased above the others. Clomid good for PCT. HCG not required IMO. It's nice if you have it but proper PCT should allow for ample recovery. At least in my case it does.
You are considering Winstrol? Injectable or oral? Regardless, the Winny is usually taken ED b/c it's in either an oral tablet form or in an aqueous solution (not oil-based). You might be able to get away with injectable EOD, however.
Meant to have the winny listed as 50mg ed... sorry bout that.. and if I add it, yes, it would be an oral. Think i should add it in?
Meant to have the winny listed as 50mg ed... sorry bout that.. and if I add it, yes, it would be an oral. Think i should add it in?
I am assuming this is not your first cycle. It's typically nice to add an oral into a stack for synergistic reasons. It's been noted that you can actually gain more out of each item in stack when injectables are stacked with an oral. Looks like you're trying to get lean and hard and not bulky mass. I personally would add the Winny at 50mg ED but for only the last 4 weeks due to the toxicity of the Winny (and the Tren). This has worked quite well for me in the past. Maybe you don't need to increase test to 200mg ED but 150 would be a good neighborhood. Also, it goes w/out saying that you know what you're doing in the gym, with your diet and your health is in good standing. How long are you planning to run the cycle?
No, it's not my first cycle... but it's the most I have stacked together(which is why I wasn't sure about the winny). I'm planning on a 10 week cycle.. was considering 12, but decided against it. Definately looking to cut/harden up. Diet is always pretty clean and I'm getting ready to drop the calories and switch my lifting routine from a strength based workout to one geared more towards mass. Keeping reps around 10-12 and bumping up the cardio, while trying to hang on to as much muscle as possible.
Sounds good to add the Winstrol in then.. and I'll do as you suggest and add it in the last 4 weeks. And I'll be running some liver assist as well.
I'm also considering adding some Winny into this...probably 50mg eod.
Should I add some HCG in with this? (wasn't sure since everything's dosed fairly low) If so, at what dose?
Would you change anything?
You don't need the arimidex during ur cycle cause the only conversion to estrogen will be from the prop, which won't be an issue at that dose. Tren converts to progesterone and prolactin, but also shouldn't be an issue at that dose, and arimedex would be useless for that anyway. Masteron will go nice with tren and winny to harden up and prop is a good test to keep the water retension minimal. Start ur HCH after ur last dose at 500iu/day for about 10 or so days. Use ur arimidex and clomid after that to restore all areas along your HPTA. I say use the arimidex as part of ur PCT because ur bodies estrogen feedback loop detects no estrogen which causes u to produce more testoterone to be converted. This is because ur body makes most of it's estrgen by aromatizing it from T.
I don't believe that you absolutely have to have more test than Tren. In fact some report less Tren sides when they drop the test down.
I'm currently running 75mg of Test P EOD and 50mg of Tren ED and I have zero sides. Libido is high. No Tren sides. I actually feel really good on this cycle.
I think others should try it this way before they pass judgment.
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