Thread: First Cycle Advice!

Originally Posted by TJTJ

I know its this dudes post but maybe you guys can help me out. when do you start Anastrozole? Is it a PCT or can you run it during the cycle? I want to add this to the 1-andro. can i stak the anastrozole with the e-control? Ive read about nolva but E is still floating around. I already have small gyno from growing up at a teen so I want to eliminate all possible chances of extra. btw im a new member, would appreciate all the help i can get. thanks!

Bro, post up a new thread. Don't hijack this one. Thanks.

Originally Posted by CT

Bro, post up a new thread. Don't hijack this one. Thanks.

yeah I was looking for a delete button. still learning the site.

I am the most unsure about the pct. I can't figure out how to do the hcg.. I've just been reading a lot lately trying to understand it. I'm afraid to ask dumb questions on here though.. but I don't understand how to measure the iu's and sometimes I read.. take every other day or another place will say only every third day. so I'm still trying to figure that stuff out and also... it said about mixing poweder with water and it seemed complicated to me so I have a lot of questions about pretty much my whole post cycle but the majority of them are about hcg

Well it depends on how you get the HCG. I would not buy the premade stuff. I like to buy 1500 IU units but 5000 IU units are out there too. They come with a powder in an amp and 1ml of BW in another amp. If you mix 1ML BW with 1500 IU you get 1500 IU/ml. So it depends on how you want to mix it up. I do 250 IU 2x a week. So for me:

1500 IU + 3ML BW = 500 IU per ML BW

So for dosing I draw up .5ml and shoot that, giving me 250IU.

Generally you can start around week four and continue right up to PCT.

Alright.. I think i understand it now. But you would run that on cycle? and some post also?.... or just right up to pct

Originally Posted by mggisforme

Hey you have a great natural base. Your cycle plan is setup pretty good for the most part. I think it just needs some minor tweaks. The article you posted by William LLewellyn is very good. He is a very reputable author that knows a lot about AAS. I read his books constantly. If I were you I would try to get some blood work done before you start. Only because you look great naturally and if you test is high which it very well maybe. I think you might want to consider waiting only because you may still be growing believe it or not. You must have great genetics along with a good diet, and training program. I really think you might have a lot of potential. Starting too early could limit how far you will go. Also let's say you try out MMA. If you are good at it and make it somewhere far like the UFC ( I know we are really stretching it but I am just giving an example) they do drug tests on their athletes. A guy like you that has never used AAS should have a higher test level than a guy who has cycled all through the amateurs to get to the pros. So when he is required to fight without the AAS you may have an advantage. That is just an example. If you decide to go into bodybuilding you still will want to wait to go as far as you can naturally because when you start AAS you will only go that much further. I am not saying that you shouldn't do this completely because you seem to have it together and I think if you decide to cycle you have enough knowledge to do it correctly with minor adjustments. It is just a choice you have to make. When you start to cycle you will not feel the same once you come off and down the road when you are older say 35 you will have been cycling for 15 years already. You will probably be on TRT for the rest of your life. It is just something to think about. If you are ok with that and want to proceed then at least you know what you are getting into and you will be able to get all the help you need on this forum. Good luck either way. PM me if you need anything. I am pretty sure you can PM me without having your 50 posts.

Originally Posted by mggisforme

Alright.. I think i understand it now. But you would run that on cycle? and some post also?.... or just right up to pct

I would run it starting somewhere between the 2nd and 4th week and run it all the way up to PCT starts. But different people will tell you different methods. Some people just load the hell out of it at the end, others do what I suggested. The thought behind what I'm saying is if you can stop yourself from shutting down in the first place then it won't be as hard to restart after.

Originally Posted by Life

I would run it starting somewhere between the 2nd and 4th week and run it all the way up to PCT starts. But different people will tell you different methods. Some people just load the hell out of it at the end, others do what I suggested. The thought behind what I'm saying is if you can stop yourself from shutting down in the first place then it won't be as hard to restart after.

I agree with you on this. I think it is better to provide stimulation to keep testicular function than to try to jump start them at the end.

Does everyone administer the HCG sub-q or are there any people who pin it IM?? I've read of people doing it both ways. Not sure which would be most ideal to suggest to the OP.