Thread: Deca Recovery Experiences

my very first cycle was deca only. not saying it was a good idea, however, libido shutdown wasnt that bad. It was 250 milligrams weeks 1-5, 500 milligrams weeks 6-12 and I didn't have any erectile problems at all until week 5. After that, my erections were at about 60%, I could get it up but I had to concentrate. Everything came back down to normal, clomid as my pct and kept a good portion of my gains. Deca has been in every cycle since, and with test there's almost no change in libido. I think the sexual shutdown effects of deca are GREATLY exaggerated.

bumping for personal interest.

Main thing to remember is to keep test AT LEAST 2:1.

Call me nuts, and i was curious about this myself... What if you ran your cycle for 16 weeks consisting of Test and HCG... and the deca for say the first 8. Would this maybe help bring your natty test levels back in the last 8 weeks?



Deca will most likely diminish your HPTA

In for some more info, I have been looking into Deca as something to consider adding in the future as well and the bro-science is not helping me decide anything. All I have consistently heard is run test 2:1 and issues of Deca dick are a non-issue (with HCG on cycle), as for recovery after I can't help you.

I think that either way when you take any AAS you are going to have HPTA shutdown. Yes some are slightly worse than others but either way after your body realizes that it no longer needs to produce as much test because your body is flooded, you are going to have shutdown. Studies administering 100mg per week of Nandrolone decanoate for 6 weeks have demonstrated an approximate 57% reduction in serum testosterone levels during therapy. At a doseage of 300mg per week, this reduction reached 70%. It is believed that the progestational activity of nandrolone notably contributes to the suppression of testosterone synthesis during useage, which can be marked in spite of a low tendency for estrogen conversion. Without the intervention of testosterone stimulating substances testosterone levels should return to normal within 2-6 months after the useage is halted. Though I am yet to experience this drug myself ( this is subject to change in the next couple of months), on paper this drug seems to be only slightly worse than testosterone for the HPTA. This being said everyone is different so this will probably vary somewhat person to person.

Good shit^.



Im in too. NPP is in my future. I'm hoping the HCG will bring me back with no problems.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

I think that either way when you take any AAS you are going to have HPTA shutdown. Yes some are slightly worse than others but either way after your body realizes that it no longer needs to produce as much test because your body is flooded, you are going to have shutdown. Studies administering 100mg per week of Nandrolone decanoate for 6 weeks have demonstrated an approximate 57% reduction in serum testosterone levels during therapy. At a doseage of 300mg per week, this reduction reached 70%. It is believed that the progestational activity of nandrolone notably contributes to the suppression of testosterone synthesis during useage, which can be marked in spite of a low tendency for estrogen conversion. Without the intervention of testosterone stimulating substances testosterone levels should return to normal within 2-6 months after the useage is halted. Though I am yet to experience this drug myself ( this is subject to change in the next couple of months), on paper this drug seems to be only slightly worse than testosterone for the HPTA. This being said everyone is different so this will probably vary somewhat person to person.

That's good info TBG and exactly why I am looking for real-life experiences. I have read numerous conflicting articles about Deca and recovery, but they all agreed that Deca, because of the cumulative effect of its long ester, will delay recovery. I've read posts on other boards where people were not recovered even after several months, but who knows if they did their PCT right, ran HCG, etc.

I know that a lot of people on this board have used deca, so I am hoping for some first-hand experiences...

Sloppy - I am curious to see as well whether this problem is isolated to the long-estered decanoate and doesn't apply to the npp, as it leaves the body quicker and does not have quite the cumulative effect because of the shorter half-life.

Hopefully, CT, HeavyIron and some of the other vets will weight in on this issue as well...

Originally Posted by GMO

That's good info TBG and exactly why I am looking for real-life experiences. I have read numerous conflicting articles about Deca and recovery, but they all agreed that Deca, because of the cumulative effect of its long ester, will delay recovery. I've read posts on other boards where people were not recovered even after several months, but who knows if they did their PCT right, ran HCG, etc.

I know that a lot of people on this board have used deca, so I am hoping for some first-hand experiences...

Sloppy - I am curious to see as well whether this problem is isolated to the long-estered decanoate and doesn't apply to the npp, as it leaves the body quicker and does not have quite the cumulative effect because of the shorter half-life.

Hopefully, CT, HeavyIron and some of the other vets will weight in on this issue as well...

I am currently running Deca Due to finish in 5 weeks.
Will be Blasting myself with HCG for 5 weeks before PCT.
Will be sure to post up blood results and tell you guys how the recovery was.

Deca is a L-O-N-G estered pain in the ass. IF you do PCT it's going to take you a good 6-8 weeks to recover seeing that you're going to have to wait 3 weeks just to start the PCT while the esters are clearing. Deca kicks the sh$t out of the HPTA as well. One study I was reading showed that one injection of 250mg is enough to shut a person down immediately.

Here's what I would do (and I feel as if i'm CONSTANTLY repeating this same thing over and over) NPP. Here are the simple reasons why:

1. It kicks in in days NOT weeks.
2. Mg per mg it is stronger than deca.
3. You can start your PCT sooner (3-5 days after the NPP ester clears)
4. You don't have to dose it ED, EOD is fine. Slin pin method works wonders here.
5. 99.9% of people don't bloat all to hell on it.

You're still going to have to run pramipexole throughout the entire cycle but so what, the strength that comes with it is second to none.

As far as joint relief.....I've never received those benefits from deca or NPP, this doesn't mean you won't.

Good luck.

CT,

Im pretty sure we are talking about NPP here. I know GMO didn't specify it in the first post but I was under the impression that NPP is what he is using this cycle because he didn't want to run it that long.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

CT,

Im pretty sure we are talking about NPP here. I know GMO didn't specify it in the first post but I was under the impression that NPP is what he is using this cycle because he didn't want to run it that long.

I thought we were taking about deca(as in the 'deca'nate ester)? I really am curious on how much easier recovery would be with NPP vs Deca.

It NPP would obviously clear faster which would allow you to start pct sooner, but I wonder if the recovery would be any faster otherwise?

CT, you're saying to shoot NPP with a slin pin?

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

CT,

Im pretty sure we are talking about NPP here. I know GMO didn't specify it in the first post but I was under the impression that NPP is what he is using this cycle because he didn't want to run it that long.

No, I did mean Decanoate, hence "Deca". I was just curious about all of the conflicting info out there on recovery. If I do choose Nandrolone, it will most def be NPP. At this point however, I am considering other compounds.

CT, I like your idea of running d-bol at the end rather than winstrol and will be looking into this as well.

Thanks for the input bros!

My bad guys.

If it's a bulk, I think the dbol at the end would be great. I've heard a few guys say that it makes PCT a little harder though.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

My bad guys.

If it's a bulk, I think the dbol at the end would be great. I've heard a few guys say that it makes PCT a little harder though.

Question for you Bro:

The PCT is harder because they are running dbol at the end or any oral at the end? Thanks.

Originally Posted by DaBeast25

I thought we were taking about deca(as in the 'deca'nate ester)? I really am curious on how much easier recovery would be with NPP vs Deca.

It NPP would obviously clear faster which would allow you to start pct sooner, but I wonder if the recovery would be any faster otherwise?

CT, you're saying to shoot NPP with a slin pin?

Yes, yes I am.

I've posted many times on how it's done.

Originally Posted by CT

Yes, yes I am.

I've posted many times on how it's done.

Gotcha, I'll have to go find that then. thx

Originally Posted by CT

Question for you Bro:

The PCT is harder because they are running dbol at the end or any oral at the end? Thanks.

CT, I've only heard it specifically mentioned with dbol. I believe Victor is the one whos has said this.

I didn't say it was fact, I just mentioned it was something I read.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

CT, I've only heard it specifically mentioned with dbol. I believe Victor is the one whos has said this.

I didn't say it was fact, I just mentioned it was something I read.

I'm just asking.

Sorry. Got defensive cause I thought you were trying to pick me apart.

i dont know much about pct but deca is very nice and not very harsh and makes my workouts very heavy.

Originally Posted by theBIGness

i dont know much about pct but deca is very nice and not very harsh and makes my workouts very heavy.

nice post

you can buy interchangeable 27g pins.

No point in using insulin needles and trying to pour oil into the syringe .

Come on brahs.........Be WINNERS

Haha ROID ^ Like the avatar too. Charlie is definely a winner!

Originally Posted by diesel618

nice post

lmao

Originally Posted by CT

You're still going to have to run pramipexole throughout the entire cycle but so what, the strength that comes with it is second to none.

CT, I value your opinion so, please elaborate on the Prami through the whole cycle.

Originally Posted by G3

CT, I value your opinion so, please elaborate on the Prami through the whole cycle.

You use it to stop any prolactin related gyno you may get from a 19-Nor steroids like Deca.

What are pros of running dbol towards the end of a cycle?