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    3 month cycle help.

    well i'm going on a 6 month rotation overseas, and I figure while i'm there I might as well get as beastly as I can.

    This will be my 2nd cycle, won't start it until I'm boots on the ground but i'm just making preparations so I have everything.


    I was looking into doing a test CYP/EQ/tren-E cycle with a TBOL kickstart.

    Week 1-13 500 mg of test
    Week 1-8 100mg of tren
    week 1-13 400mg of EQ.
    Week 1-4 30mg of TBOL

    i'm also going to toss in some T3 to further help me cut.


    the Tren dosage may be off which is why i'm posting this here for corrections, and or guidance considering this is going to be my first experience with Tren.

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    You didn't list your stats, cycle history or anything else needed in order to offer appropriate suggestions. However, not a bad idea overall with your cycle layout except for a few things. I always recommend running EQ for a good 16 weeks. Also, 400mg would be the minumum to see its effects. I would run the Test a couple of weeks past the EQ due to the longer EQ ester. This will help make pct more manageable. As far as the Tren E; since you haven't used Tren before you may want to reconsider w/ Tren A in case you have trouble accepting/adapting to its sides. The Tren Ace leaves you system quicker. Just some food for thought. Either way, Tren E is usually dosed a bit higher, such as 300mg EW. In addition, the T-bol dosing is on the low side. I just finished five weeks at 60mg ED and loved it. I would strongly recommend increasing the Tbol dosage to AT LEAST 40-50mg ED but that's just me.

    Furthermore, do you have an AI in place to run during the cycle? You don't want to experience an overload of estrogenic side effects while you're in full battle rattle. Think Arimidex at 0.5mg EOD. Then you'll have to have PCT lined up to start a couple of weeks after your last shot of Test. Clomid should do the trick. I modified and listed new cycle below. Some guys will suggest HCG but I won't b/c I don't believe it's required. If you can get it then go right ahead. Cycle below is a bit lengthy due to the EQ you want to take. Other things must be factored such as things that may be out of your control. Diet, sleep, training, etc.


    Week 1-16 Test Cyp 500mg
    Week 1-14 EQ 400mg
    Week 1-12 Tren E 300mg
    Week 1-6 T-bol 40mg ED
    Week 1-16 Arimidex 0.5mg EOD
    Weeks 17 & 18 Nothing
    PCT:
    Week 19 Clomid 100mg ED
    Week 20 Clomid 75mg ED
    Weeks 21 & 22 Clomid 50mg ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    You didn't list your stats, cycle history or anything else needed in order to offer appropriate suggestions. However, not a bad idea overall with your cycle layout except for a few things. I always recommend running EQ for a good 16 weeks. Also, 400mg would be the minumum to see its effects. I would run the Test a couple of weeks past the EQ due to the longer EQ ester. This will help make pct more manageable. As far as the Tren E; since you haven't used Tren before you may want to reconsider w/ Tren A in case you have trouble accepting/adapting to its sides. The Tren Ace leaves you system quicker. Just some food for thought. Either way, Tren E is usually dosed a bit higher, such as 300mg EW. In addition, the T-bol dosing is on the low side. I just finished five weeks at 60mg ED and loved it. I would strongly recommend increasing the Tbol dosage to AT LEAST 40-50mg ED but that's just me.

    Furthermore, do you have an AI in place to run during the cycle? You don't want to experience an overload of estrogenic side effects while you're in full battle rattle. Think Arimidex at 0.5mg EOD. Then you'll have to have PCT lined up to start a couple of weeks after your last shot of Test. Clomid should do the trick. I modified and listed new cycle below. Some guys will suggest HCG but I won't b/c I don't believe it's required. If you can get it then go right ahead. Cycle below is a bit lengthy due to the EQ you want to take. Other things must be factored such as things that may be out of your control. Diet, sleep, training, etc.


    Week 1-16 Test Cyp 500mg
    Week 1-14 EQ 400mg
    Week 1-12 Tren E 300mg
    Week 1-6 T-bol 40mg ED
    Week 1-16 Arimidex 0.5mg EOD
    Weeks 17 & 18 Nothing
    PCT:
    Week 19 Clomid 100mg ED
    Week 20 Clomid 75mg ED
    Weeks 21 & 22 Clomid 50mg ED

    This is good advice. I would save the tren for another time though and just run it with a more simple cycle. That way you can tell what you experiencing from it and not get it confused with one of the other compounds. I would also use aromasin instead of adex because it works much better for PCT and it is good while on cycle. So for the PCT run it as described above except with clomid at 100/100/75/50 ed with aromasin at 25/25/12.5/12.5 ed Hcg if you choose to at 2500iu eod for first 14 days of PCT unless your testes are normal size then you could use less.








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    Quote Originally Posted by TGB1987 View Post
    This is good advice. I would save the tren for another time though and just run it with a more simple cycle. That way you can tell what you experiencing from it and not get it confused with one of the other compounds. I would also use aromasin instead of adex because it works much better for PCT and it is good while on cycle. So for the PCT run it as described above except with clomid at 100/100/75/50 ed with aromasin at 25/25/12.5/12.5 ed Hcg if you choose to at 2500iu eod for first 14 days of PCT unless your testes are normal size then you could use less.
    So he would run the Aromasin during cycle and continue straight through pct, right. I think doses on cycle are 12.5mg ED then as you listed for pct. As mentioned, it probably is a good idea to leave the Tren out of the equation for now and run it with just Test down the rode sometime. Test/EQ and Tbol is still a solid cycle.

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    Yes run it at 12.5mg eod or ed depending on how prone you are to estro sides. I use the eod usually. It woiuld be a solid cycle even without the tren.








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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    So he would run the Aromasin during cycle and continue straight through pct, right. I think doses on cycle are 12.5mg ED then as you listed for pct. As mentioned, it probably is a good idea to leave the Tren out of the equation for now and run it with just Test down the rode sometime. Test/EQ and Tbol is still a solid cycle.
    alright, I suppose I can run it without the Tren but like I said I was just afraid of the cata effect of T3 hence why I added the tren.


    call me paranoid but I refuse to look like a goddamn holocaust survivor because of that.

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    What is your bodyfat%? How is your diet and nutrition? and training? T3 , I personally don't believe in the use of these types of compounds to lose weight because to be truthful all you need to do to lose weight is to eat a clean diet with a proper workout plan. I just don't see the need to mess those hormones unless you are trying to get a small edge for a competition after everything else is in place. Just my opinion there is no easy way to loose weight just diet and hard work. I wouldn't want to take anything with catabolic effects if I didn't have to. It is your cycle and your choice.








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    its about 17 percent, and you're exactly right however overseas you don't exactly have the option of eating clean all the time.


    because sometimes some of the FOBs are just absolute shit.

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    You would be much better off to get your bodyfat down before starting a cycle. If you don't it will increase your chance of sides. You will be more prone to gyno, it will cause more strain on your heart, and could cause BP issues. If you can't manage your diet and training without AAS you shouldn't use them. Get your self primed first and you will get much more out of your cycle. I am looking to start a thread here soon about priming for a cycle.








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