Thread: Is NPP the next Deca?

You might want to Google it or even read about it.

npp IS deca, just fast acting......i like to frontload deca with npp for a few weeks till it kicks in......also being fast acting i get a little less sides and water retention from npp

Originally Posted by blazeftp

you might want to google it or even read about it.

lmao!!!

Sweet Jeebus.

Gona start running it for the first time in a few weeks. Looking forward to it!



/V

will be running npp/tpp/tbol on april. im amped.

Good to see guys here like Victor. I've heard great things about NPP, but never tried it yet.

Might add it next cycle

Parsifal

Originally Posted by irish_2003

npp IS deca, just fast acting......i like to frontload deca with npp for a few weeks till it kicks in......also being fast acting i get a little less sides and water retention from npp

This is what I am going to do with my next cycle. I won some NPP from a contest euroking sponsered. So I am going to run Gen-shi NPP with dbol for 4 weeks while taking AP test cyp and AP Deca. First time taking Deca or NPP so I can't wait. I was going to go with EQ but changed my mind.
Here I will do the work for you.


Nandrolone Phenylpropionate (NPP)

Chemical Name: Nandrolone Phenylpropionate
Drug Class: Injectable Anabolic Steroid

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, also known as “NPP” is very similar to the very popular steroid “Deca” which is Nandrolone with a longer ester (Decanoate). Nandrolone Phenylpropionate is, therefore, a shorter acting “Deca” for all practical intents and purposes. Anecdotally, it seems to produce less water retention than its longer acting cousin, and this would be very consistent with injectable testosterones, where we find that shorter esters provide much less water retention.

It’s a progestin, like any Nandrolone derivative, and is made by removing the carbon atom at the 19th position of the Steran Nucleus of testosterone. However, although it’s a progestin, Nandrolone (regardless of ester) doesn’t produce much of what we could properly call estrogenic side effects. Any side effects from Nandrolone Phenylpropionate would therefore more properly be termed progestenic in nature- as it only converts to estrogen at roughly 20% the rate of testosterone.

Regardless of ester, and water retention not withstanding, we find that all of the characteristics of found in one type of Nandrolone are found in any other. Nandrolone, probably owing to its progestenic nature has the ability to improve collagen synthesis (1) as well as bone mineral content (2). Clearly this would be a huge benefit to athletes with connective tissue problems or other joint issues, although drug-tested athletes need to avoid Nandrolones because of their detectability in urine for a year to eighteen months after administration. Also, since it is progestin (with slight estrogenic ability), it probably has some very beneficial effects on the immune mediated anti-inflammatory process, thereby soothing joints as well as helping to heal them.

Nandrolone is one of the few steroids which has been used successfully in AIDS patients to stimulate weight gain (3), and although athletes using NPP in lieu of Deca find it to produce slightly less weight gain, this is probably a result of gaining less water weight. Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, is a more popular drug than Deca for use in cutting cycles recently, due to this fact.

This brings up the fact that although Deca has a very long active life, NPP has a much shorter one, and this means that people are forced to inject at least two times per week, with the more common protocol being every third day. Results are seen much more quickly with NPP as compared with Deca, and it’s quickly becoming a much more popular alternative.

Both supply as well as demand for NPP is high, because many underground labs have recently been producing it in large quantities to keep up with the increased demand. Although an effective weekly dose will be relatively inexpensive, it will still cost more than Deca, owing to the injection frequency that it necessitates. On the Black market, $75-100 is the average price for a ten milliliter bottle, dosed at 100-200 mgs/ml.

It's one of my favorites. No sides at all for me and a great quality mass builder. Just give me some test, dihydrobold and NPP and I am a happy camper.

As far as effect NPP in my experience is a very good sub for Tren A if you're look'n for somethin a lil different.

I agree with Vic and Paulo

NPP/TPP/Tbol very good combo . But thats just me talk'n, to each his own.

Peace and Love

Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy

As far as effect NPP in my experience is a very good sub for Tren A if you're look'n for somethin a lil different.

I agree with Vic and Paulo

NPP/TPP/Tbol very good combo . But thats just me talk'n, to each his own.

Peace and Love

I was wondering when you were going to chime in on this one! A NPP/TPP/Tbol cycle sure does sound tasty. Can't wait to give the NPP a test drive. Gona start with the NPP, wait for it to clear, and finish off with tren ace or crystal tren. REAL TALK! Peace and love right back at ya bro.




/V

Originally Posted by irish_2003

npp IS deca, just fast acting......i like to frontload deca with npp for a few weeks till it kicks in......also being fast acting i get a little less sides and water retention from npp

Sounds like a solid idea, I might want to try that myself. I always thought people were exaggerating when they said you won't see any gains on deca until week 3-4 until I ran it for the first time. On a low dose of test I didn't see ANYTHING until week 3.

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I was wondering when you were going to chime in on this one! A NPP/TPP/Tbol cycle sure does sound tasty. Can't wait to give the NPP a test drive. Gona start with the NPP, wait for it to clear, and finish off with tren ace or crystal tren. REAL TALK! Peace and love right back at ya bro.




/V

Man anytime I see even the words " Crystal Tren" my mouth waters ! Thats the Disneyworld ride it all cycle Homey ! lol I know you'll be phase'n in and out of compounds ( NPP and C Tren) I had the thought of use'n another nadro based compound like EQ Cyp. A faster ester EQ say the last 2 weeks of the NPP phase thru your transition into the C Tren phase. The ester on the EQ would allow it to kick in faster than reg EQ and would put some cake with those cookies. Hey you're the one that started me think'n this way, so what can I say lololol. I wrote it down and did the math ( of course) based on 150mg EQ Cyp introduced into the protocol over 8 to 10 weeks. Whatcha think .

Peace and Love

Facepalm? More like....

Originally Posted by Supermans Daddy

Hey you're the one that started me think'n this way, so what can I say lololol. I wrote it down and did the math ( of course) based on 150mg EQ Cyp introduced into the protocol over 8 to 10 weeks. Whatcha think .

Peace and Love

I didn't start making you think the way you do bro, you are one heck of an intelligent guy and you just understand the more detailed science that most others can't comprehend.

I think me broda is dead on correct! As always. It can get a little complicated as I understand some of the faster working EQ can make you feel a little sick. I'm going to have to run some trial and error and see how I react. What doses made you feel a little off?


/V

the master mind behind my cycle was SD. I dont want to take credit for something I didnt put together.

General comment: most of the times I tried front loading just got me into trouble with side effects. I'm just more patient now. Now just pick 2-3 compounds and go with them, 1 test, 1 anabolic and maybe 1 oral added in at the end last 4-8 weeks. Switching out replacements is fine like tren replace NPP or Test E for Test C etc.

Originally Posted by irish_2003

npp IS deca, just fast acting......i like to frontload deca with npp for a few weeks till it kicks in......also being fast acting i get a little less sides and water retention from npp

Actually npp is NOT deca. Deca gets its name from the ester decanoate, which is not in npp. I think what you meant to say is that npp is nandrolone, but with the faster acting ester phenylpropionate.

Is pinning EOD enough for NPP?

Actually it is . Due to the added time of the ester over prop it certainly can be used in that fashion. And as I menetioned it is a lot like Tren A in the sense you can go EOD or ED with great results. Thats just my think'n based on my research and experience.

Vic, I never been over 400mg EQ Cyp week. At first I felt a lil weird at 250mg injects, but at 200mg I noticed nothin .........except I could smell the compound for a day.Not anymore lolol

Paolo , Homey it's alway my pleasure to help you in anyway I can. You are a good cat with some solid knowledge yourself Homey. Thanks

Peace and Love

Originally Posted by G3

Is pinning EOD enough for NPP?

Yes.

Thanks SD and CT. You guys are a great help, as always.

Originally Posted by GMO

Actually npp is NOT deca. Deca gets its name from the ester decanoate, which is not in npp. I think what you meant to say is that npp is nandrolone, but with the faster acting ester phenylpropionate.

yes, just a mix up of the chemical name and common name/brand name