Increase 1000mg Andro

**TJTJ** · 03-19-2011, 09:19 AM

went from 600 for a few days now 800 for a few days today being the 11th day. thinking of going to 1000mg? not getting the rush like in the beginning. going for 4weeks. start of 2nd week will include e-control. am I jumping the gun? first time, maybe just inpatient? seeing results, want to max them out. not looking to gain too much, shred is the name of the game. did put on a few pounds of muscle. 177.2->180.4 dont want to jinx it but no side yet(knock on wood)

thought?

30yr 180.4 5'10 4yrs experience pumping iron, a life time in over all physical activity.

**TGB1987** · 03-19-2011, 09:23 AM

You might want to slow it down getting impatient can get you into trouble. I would at least wait until the end of the second week so you can see how 800mg is treating you. Slow gains are easier to maintain after the cycle. Just something to think about. If you are gaining don't over do it.

**TJTJ** · 03-19-2011, 09:31 AM

alright cool. thats what i thought too. thanks dude.

**SUPERFLY1234** · 03-19-2011, 12:13 PM

man 600mg per day is high. did you get any sides? if you don't see any results by now, maybe if bunk gear.

**TJTJ** · 03-19-2011, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234

man 600mg per day is high. did you get any sides? if you don't see any results by now, maybe if bunk gear.

I'm not going make any assumptions just yet. Its only the 11th day. I started this already in excellent condition.

**TGB1987** · 03-19-2011, 10:23 PM

It is not bunk gear. This is an Ironmaglab supp right? I know for sure that Ironmaglabs makes some of the best Prohormones. He hasn't been taking it very long to know yet. Anytime you take an oral PH that is not 17Alpha alkylated you are not going to get the full dose of the hormone which means you have to take a much higher dose because the liver deactivates the compound very efficiently. Continue you to take the dose you are. You have already made good gains IMO for what you are taking. Let's face it this is not going to put on the same amount of mass as something like dianabol or any oral AAS and even those don't put on tons of mass.

**TJTJ** · 03-20-2011, 08:25 AM

I dont think bunk. Day 12. Notice more definition and very vascular. Not expecting freak results.

**SUPERFLY1234** · 03-20-2011, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by TGB1987

It is not bunk gear. This is an Ironmaglab supp right? I know for sure that Ironmaglabs makes some of the best Prohormones. He hasn't been taking it very long to know yet. Anytime you take an oral PH that is not 17Alpha alkylated you are not going to get the full dose of the hormone which means you have to take a much higher dose because the liver deactivates the compound very efficiently. Continue you to take the dose you are. You have already made good gains IMO for what you are taking. Let's face it this is not going to put on the same amount of mass as something like dianabol or any oral AAS and even those don't put on tons of mass.

should have read if more carefully, did not know he was taking ph.

**Prince** · 03-20-2011, 02:21 PM

the rate of conversion of 1-Andro varies from individual to individual, so a higher dose may be what you need...however if you're not getting what you want from 1-Andro Rx I suggest trying Super-DMZ Rx. Super-DMZ Rx™ Pro-Anabolic (Superdrol Dymethazine)

**bknoxx** · 03-20-2011, 04:45 PM

yeah super dmz is very good i gained 8lbs in 4 weeks i liked it only side i had was back pump it was insane lol
i think u need to chill bro take ur time

**TJTJ** · 03-20-2011, 05:09 PM

If nothing by the 3rd week Im going to 1000mg for the last week. but the Super-DMZ Rx is too live toxic. thinking about pinning

**TJTJ** · 03-20-2011, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by bknoxx

yeah super dmz is very good i gained 8lbs in 4 weeks i liked it only side i had was back pump it was insane lol
i think u need to chill bro take ur time

how much of that was fat, water or lean muscle? what was your fat% before cycling? Im sure you ate a shit load of food. Anyone can gain weight if they eat enough. All i care about is lean beautiful as fuck muscle.

**bknoxx** · 03-20-2011, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by TJTJ

how much of that was fat, water or lean muscle? what was your fat% before cycling? Im sure you ate a shit load of food. Anyone can gain weight if they eat enough. All i care about is lean beautiful as fuck muscle.

No fat bro maybe a tad of water i was 12 % bf thn.. now im on 7 weeks of test 750 so im a lil higher thn tht ill tell u this u want clean muscle gains ur not gonna get wht u want on 1 andro sorry to say... it does work but u sound like ur expecting alot ..and ur right any body can gain weight if they eat alot.. im 232 right now week 5 i was at 240 while on Dbol now im starting to dry up a bit and lean out and as far as DMrx ur only gonna run it for 4 weeks so it's not gonna be liver toxic enough to do any harm get on milk thistle trust me ur gonna get more out of DMZ thn u will 1 Andro

**TJTJ** · 03-20-2011, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234

should have read if more carefully, did not know he was taking ph.

Look pal I know what Im taking. Can YOU read this? Dont tell me I dont know what Im doing. Alright

**TJTJ** · 03-20-2011, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by bknoxx

No fat bro maybe a tad of water i was 12 % bf thn.. now im on 7 weeks of test 750 so im a lil higher thn tht ill tell u this u want clean muscle gains ur not gonna get wht u want on 1 andro sorry to say... it does work but u sound like ur expecting alot ..and ur right any body can gain weight if they eat alot.. im 232 right now week 5 i was at 240 while on Dbol now im starting to dry up a bit and lean out and as far as DMrx ur only gonna run it for 4 weeks so it's not gonna be liver toxic enough to do any harm get on milk thistle trust me ur gonna get more out of DMZ thn u will 1 Andro

Im good now. I mean strength is up. Im pushing 540lbs leg press for 20 reps. When I finish my WO I still feel like I can keep going but I dont want to over train. I knew not to expect much bulk but more shredding. This is a trial run so I might step it up, after much research of course.

**TJTJ** · 03-21-2011, 11:17 AM

Fuck it, Im going to go for 5 weeks @ 800mg. I have the supply. Still going to start the ATD at the beginning of the 3nd week over lapping the cycle and continue for 3weeks as PCT.

I wonder if my diet is jacked up? Since Im shredding Ive been avoiding sugar and fats. I might have to hook it up with some Rib Eye and Salmon. Im taking in at least 300g of Protein. Carbs all over the place, brown rice, dark greens, broccoli, cauliflower, sweet potatoes. I got my shit down tight.

My weight at plateaued at 180.0(as of this morning) Maybe Im switching fat for muscle? Shit, Im looking good in the mirror. Either way I know my strength is up, so is my endurance. Yeah yeah I know it seems like im being impatient, maybe Im a non-responder? My body is in top form, maybe my liver is working too efficiently and its kicking it to the curb. Whatever Im feeling good and I guess its just my nature to push it to the limit. Not crying bunk, this is a forum. What do we do in forums? Talk, and Im talking a lot lol.

**TJTJ** · 03-26-2011, 09:27 PM

If starting 1g of "dro" for 6 weeks while including ATD at the start of the 2nd week (2x a day)and continue the last 2weeks of the ATD left as a PCT while taking 4 of the anabolic matrix 2am and 2pm a day (totaling 6 weeks of ATD use) Is 2weeks loing enough for a PCT? Or should I include novla(on hand) for an extra week or Clomid(not on hand but might soon) It is possiable to use one type if PCT then continue with a different one? I know not to mix but you know in worst case senirios if you have two that work in the same manner can you trade off?

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