Thread: Will never run winny again

ouch... I hope someone is able to give you a solution .... are you drinking tons of water with it?

Winny is known to dry joints out, are you taking any supplements for it such as fish oil, or any other anti-inflammatory?

yeah i am taking fish oil and naporxin, i think i am drinking enough water.I have been off the winny for almost two weeks now,and didn't have pain anything like this while using it.almost feels like tendontits from my baseball days.(i can't even pick up my laptop lol). but damn the results of the winny were good lol.

how much were you running and for how long?

winstrol is by far the most overrated steroid....

50 mgs ed for 4 weeks

And I will cross winny off my list of ones not to run... if Epi was bad, I can't picture winny being any better. Get some SuperCissus Rx, it is hyped but damn it works well with dry compounds. 10 grams of fish oil, 6 SCRx, Gluco/Chondro you will be good to go in no time.

thanks for the input

Originally Posted by sulli174

thanks for the input

Yeah man, no worries. That combo I suggested made my Epi cycle at 45 mgs a breeze after a few days, the first leg workout was a bitch but after that I was fine.

Check your blood lipids....

Try some flax seed as well I hear it helps

Very rarely do I ever hear anything good about winny?

Its not a good one to run on its own because of the joint issue. This is why most guys will run a deca / winny cycle instead.

take glucosamine

Originally Posted by Pulsated Pec

take glucosamine

That won't do anything if you've wiped out all the estro in your system.

Originally Posted by sassy69

Its not a good one to run on its own because of the joint issue. This is why most guys will run a deca / winny cycle instead.

Can you run deca and still be fine with taps ?

Originally Posted by sassy69

Its not a good one to run on its own because of the joint issue. This is why most guys will run a deca / winny cycle instead.

he ran it solo? NFW . .. . one guy I know ran it solo, shrunk his nuts to raisins and turned his joints to glass. Shutdown hard and his nuts never fully recovered. Newb mistake.

I had a good run with Stanazol. Run it with test, always. Even 200mg/wk is enough. No joint issues @ 40mg ED for 5 weeks.

Ive never pinned it though, there is some floating about, I might try that down the track

i didn't run it alone i ran it with 400 mgs of eq every week

Originally Posted by sassy69

That won't do anything if you've wiped out all the estro in your system.

Is this why I feel like I have terrible arthritis after taking Aromasin?

Originally Posted by sulli174

i didn't run it alone i ran it with 400 mgs of eq every week

EQ but no test????

Should be run with test

yeah no test i had rcently lost like 35# while in the hospital and looked to eq for its increase in appetite to put some weight back on

General guidance for guys - have test as the base of your cycle always.

EQ doesn't aromatize so won't be adding any water to the equation, but winstrol is particularly hard on joints. So you've got nothing supporting your joints.

And yes, when you include aromatase inhibitors you to keep estrogenic effects under control, I guess you have the potential to leave yourself in the situation of no water in the joints again. I think this is where lightly aromatizing compounds and no AI are the goal e.g. for off-season if you want to grow. If you're running a cycle and completely suppressing estrogen you're limiting your abillity to build muscle you estro to help muscle growth.

Originally Posted by sassy69

General guidance for guys - have test as the base of your cycle always.

EQ doesn't aromatize so won't be adding any water to the equation, but winstrol is particularly hard on joints. So you've got nothing supporting your joints.

And yes, when you include aromatase inhibitors you to keep estrogenic effects under control, I guess you have the potential to leave yourself in the situation of no water in the joints again. I think this is where lightly aromatizing compounds and no AI are the goal e.g. for off-season if you want to grow. If you're running a cycle and completely suppressing estrogen you're limiting your abillity to build muscle you estro to help muscle growth.

Great post Sassy, I think too many want to completely eliminate estrogen as a way of avoiding sides such as gyno when as you said it is vital to muscle growth.

i feel ur pain man. same thing happened to me. when i would bench i felt like a chump bc i couldnt go down more than half way. felt like i was going to tear everything. if done again would have to be with deca (and test of course). on the positive i know my gear was real

. . that is a good thing

i have come to the conclusion it might not be the winny i believe i may have torn something i still can't even lift an orange with my left arm.this really sux because i haven't been able to work out in over a month and if i have torn something this really sux because it will be many more months before i can lift again.i will find out friday when i visit my doc.keeping fingers crossed hoping it's just tendonitis

Damn bro best of luck to you