Thread: Sustanon: it's the noobs choice

750 to a 1000 weekly with a dbol kick start

I would inject ed day 1 cc for the (1750mg)first week then I would drop the injections to 4 times(1000mg) a week from there until the end of the cycle 1cc each time. I would stop injecting after 6-8 weeks

Originally Posted by Chino0823

750 to a 1000 weekly with a dbol kick start

+1, I agree you need those kinds of doses with sust. Heavy was on it for a loooong ass time. I'm sure he will chime in on this one




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Holy crap 1750 a week!!! I would jacked in a coffin lol overdose for me atlease

Since there is only 30mg of prop in 1cc, you would almost have to pin ED to get the most out of the prop. 30mg eod of prop ain't s**t.

Originally Posted by Chino0823

Holy crap 1750 a week!!! I would jacked in a coffin lol overdose for me atlease

You actually aren't getting nearly that much because a lot of that is a long ester. You would only be using the short esters in the first week. GMO is right about the prop.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

You actually aren't getting nearly that much because a lot of that is a long ester. You would only be using the short esters in the first week. GMO is right about the prop.

So heavy dose would be key to benefit on susaton then. Thats sucks because i only got 3 10mil vils i was planing on that deca sust dbol thats what i got in hand I remember we all talk about thats dam the person who made sust lol

it depends on the brand of Sust, some have longer ester steroids in them like Cyp, you can inject those 2 x weekly and they work great.

Originally Posted by Prince

it depends on the brand of Sust, some have longer ester steroids in them like Cyp, you can inject those 2 x weekly and they work great.

There are blends out there that work much more efficiently than the basic sust. Like prince said above ^ and No you don't have to run sust in the heavy doses that I stated above Chino, but that is how I would run the original sust. blend. Actually I just wouldn't run it at all because I feel much better on Test C or E. I don't like sust. but the blends prince is talking about would be a lot better but I have never used one like that.

I shot sust every 3 days whenever I cycled it. I did a run off and on for 3 years of sust. Basically 10 weeks on 8 weeks off and repeat. 750-1,500mg weekly is a good range.

Did you like it heavy? How did you feel on it compared to Test C or E? Could you feel any differece.

I to am curious how you like it compared to prop or enth. I havent run sust before

Heavy has more experience with sust. So he could answer this better than most.

Not meaning to hijack this thread but I am curious about sust as well and I was wondering if there is any substancial pain associated with sust injects... I was thinking there might be some due to all the different esters? Can some one let me know? Thanks!

my test of choice when i don't use TNE is sustanon or any test blend......the prop in it is so minimal though that ED or EOD is best for me......i'm a high doser and run at least 1ml ED on average

M/W/F. I'm using .75ml 3x per week at the moment. turns out to be a relatively small dose but it suits me fine right now.

Who ever decides to run it needs to subtract the ester weights so that you know exactly how much actual test you are getting per week and then adjust the dosage from there. eitherway, 750mg should be plenty for anyone who is just a recreational BB. I''m trying to move past the idea of more is better, sometimes more is better though

x2 on the actual weights vs estered weights......500mg/wk is like only 300-350mg absorbed with the longer esters.....

750 minimum weekly, i find long ester test effects my libido much better, especially with e.

Originally Posted by yurpimpdaddi

Not meaning to hijack this thread but I am curious about sust as well and I was wondering if there is any substancial pain associated with sust injects... I was thinking there might be some due to all the different esters? Can some one let me know? Thanks!

Every brand is different. I personally love sustanon and have used it a few times over the years. For a beginner twice a week can produce awesome gains. Like TGB said for an advanced user the dose should be increased to get the full effect of the blended esters. I run it like heavy said every three days. As far as pain goes it's never been as bad as say straight prop and it also depends on the location of injection. I find glutes and quads to be painless. If you use the smallest gauge you can get it through and inject deep enough the pain is almost nil. If you are sloppy and stir around the needle and use a large gauge and don't thoroughly massage the area after injecting any gear will hurt IMO

Originally Posted by yurpimpdaddi

Not meaning to hijack this thread but I am curious about sust as well and I was wondering if there is any substancial pain associated with sust injects... I was thinking there might be some due to all the different esters? Can some one let me know? Thanks!

depends on where you get it. A good test blend manufactured correctly should not cause any pain.

Mine has zero pain ,even if i pin 3ml at once.

see gen shi susta has 60 mg test prop 120 mg test pheny 120 mg test iso 200 deca mix thats 500mg hummm

Originally Posted by Chino0823

see gen shi susta has 60 mg test prop 120 mg test pheny 120 mg test iso 200 deca mix thats 500mg hummm

that's a misprint....that is supposed to be the "total" amount in the 2ml vials....same for the genshi sust1250 is total for 5ml

Originally Posted by irish_2003

that's a misprint....that is supposed to be the "total" amount in the 2ml vials....same for the genshi sust1250 is total for 5ml

what is the real numbers

Originally Posted by Chino0823

what is the real numbers

just divide by 2ml.....the numbers listed are total amounts for the 2ml vial, hence sust500 or sust1250.....each ml actually has 250mg/ml....so the math is simple then

ahhh i see 1250/5=250 250mg nice i should never drop out of first grade

Great information. I never considered upping the dose based on the long vs short esters.. Thanks! Lots of stuff to take into account

Originally Posted by TGB1987

I would inject ed day 1 cc for the (1750mg)first week then I would drop the injections to 4 times(1000mg) a week from there until the end of the cycle 1cc each time. I would stop injecting after 6-8 weeks

I like this idea. The only thing different I would do is after the first week pin 4mls (at once) E5D.

Rational is based on the ester-half-lives, and the fact that 30mg of prop is fuck-all.

So every 5 day you get:

120mg prop (1 day)
240mg p-prop (2-3 days)
240mg isocap (3-5 days)
400mg dec (7-8 days)

by the time the isocap is gone, you're getting another hit.

Still gonna cause issues with unstable bloods, but it makes sense to me - you'd probably wouldnt go into PCT until at least 3 weeks after the last shot.

if u inject 1000mg a week u only ingest roughly 700. so more doesnt hurt you! ed is the shit.

i find leaner gains than just running test e....