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    Anyone still "blast" with hcg right before pct???

    It seems more common to run throughout your entire cycle now, but does anyone still do higher dosed eod injections....

    Like 2500iu eod for 16 days right before pct or during the first few weeks...

    This is what's recommended in Heavy's STICKY on PCT, and it's also what Dr. Scally recommends in his pct protocol which has supposedly had a tremendous success rate with his patients.

    anyone???

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    not 100% sure, but i swore i read somewhere that high hcg dosing may negatively impact you.

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    Nothing wrong with taking a larger dose of Hcg while the ester clears your system. The amount taken still does not come close to being high enough to do any harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombboogie View Post
    not 100% sure, but i swore i read somewhere that high hcg dosing may negatively impact you.

    there is the possiblity this but use of hcg for a long period of time can do this as well which makes me second guess running it for an entire cycle even if its at a low dose.

    Nothing seems to be concrete on this subject....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBeast25 View Post
    there is the possiblity this but use of hcg for a long period of time can do this as well which makes me second guess running it for an entire cycle even if its at a low dose.

    Nothing seems to be concrete on this subject....
    if you do end up blasting, probably go with some nolva at the same time to prevent the desensitization then.

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    My doc scripts 1000iu daily leading up to clomid therapy.
    HCG administration begins 3 weeks before last shot.
    IF this doesnt get your nuts working your in trouble.

    Or you can run it the whole cycle at 500iu-1000iu 2x weekly and bump it up at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombboogie View Post
    if you do end up blasting, probably go with some nolva at the same time to prevent the desensitization then.
    A serm definitely does need to be run as well, but how does nolva prevent desensitization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    My doc scripts 1000iu daily leading up to clomid therapy.
    HCG administration begins 3 weeks before last shot.
    IF this doesnt get your nuts working your in trouble.

    Or you can run it the whole cycle at 500iu-1000iu 2x weekly and bump it up at the end.
    So you actually have a doc that helps you recover after AAS cycles???

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBeast25 View Post
    A serm definitely does need to be run as well, but how does nolva prevent desensitization?
    things that i have said in this post and the previous is based on previous readings about hcg use.

    personally, i have not used it yet; hence, the memory fog on the subject.

    i have some recollection about, "high dosing of hcg may damage leydig cells, and nolva was suggested that it may prevent this action of desensitization."

    but if i were to use hcg, it would be 500iu max per, e2d/e3d (most likely 3, since e3d is when the decline happens)

    this is based on personal opinion, nor it should affect you on how you want to run/do it.

    regardless on your choice, good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBeast25 View Post
    So you actually have a doc that helps you recover after AAS cycles???
    He helps people, particularly BB's and professional athletes recover from long heavy cycles yes. He used to be an advisor for some olympic program. You go into his office and its all HUGE dudes.
    But...no he doesnt actually help me recover because Im on HRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombboogie View Post
    things that i have said in this post and the previous is based on previous readings about hcg use.

    personally, i have not used it yet; hence, the memory fog on the subject.

    i have some recollection about, "high dosing of hcg may damage leydig cells, and nolva was suggested that it may prevent this action of desensitization."

    but if i were to use hcg, it would be 500iu max per, e2d/e3d (most likely 3, since e3d is when the decline happens)

    this is based on personal opinion, nor it should affect you on how you want to run/do it.

    regardless on your choice, good luck.
    Nolva does not help prevent suppression. Nolva helps with estrogen side effects and helps getting LH production back up to speed, although clomid is supposed to be better at this.

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    very interesting subject... I'm very tempted to try Dr Scally's PCT, but with a slightly lower hcg dose

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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    Nolva does not help prevent suppression. Nolva helps with estrogen side effects and helps getting LH production back up to speed, although clomid is supposed to be better at this.
    you may be correct on this subject matter, but i would have to go research more on hcg use if i were to use it.

    same suggestion toward to the OP as well, research before use to get a decent grasp on what and what not to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombboogie View Post
    you may be correct on this subject matter, but i would have to go research more on hcg use if i were to use it.

    same suggestion toward to the OP as well, research before use to get a decent grasp on what and what not to do.
    Couldn't agree with you more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBeast25 View Post
    very interesting subject... I'm very tempted to try Dr Scally's PCT, but with a slightly lower hcg dose
    One protocol that I've had recommended is 1,000 IU EOD or 500 IU ED (total 5,000 IU) for 10 days starting day after last pin. then start PCT at day 14 after last pin. This was recommended for a test e only cycle, when HCG wasn't run throughout cycle.
    I am in no way recommending this, just sharing what has been recommended by a respected vet. I'm in no place to give suggestions. I am curious to know what vets here think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    Nothing wrong with taking a larger dose of Hcg while the ester clears your system. The amount taken still does not come close to being high enough to do any harm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwisT View Post
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    It there any actual research proving exactly what doses do in fact cause desensitation of the leydig cells?

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