Hey guys, new user here. I have a friend who speaks very highly of this site so I decided to come over and ask a few basic questions I had.
Two months ago I bought the PowerLab Nutrition Halotest-25 package that came with Liver Guardian and their own PostCycle. I did a lot of research and basically saw a 50/50 spread of people saying their post cycle product worked and didn't work. Since I already bought it I decided to just go with it for my PCT and supplemented it with 1000mg Trib (+500mg Anabolic Blend) and a ZMA blend (both by Fitness Labs) daily. I wanted to stay OTC if possible which is why I went this route.
I finished the PH cycle(25mg daily 4 weeks) almost a month ago and everything went great, put on 10-12lbs with a solid, meticulous diet. I had really no side effects (no gyno or sore nipples) except for a minor bit of acne somewhere in there. Halotest was said to not aromatize, so I didn't bother with any anti-estrogens.
Now, I'm finishing up with my month of PCT and have kept most of my weight, BUT my balls aren't back to their normal size yet. So, needless to say, I'm starting to worry about whether everything is indeed going back to normal. I have a SERM vendor in line, and I'm planning on starting on Toremifine. Since I've already done a month of PCT do I need to go the whole 4 weeks on the Torem? Also, is it okay to do the cycle of Torem so long after my PH cycle is over? And lastly, I'm planning on running the SERM with clen for cutting, is stacking them together okay?
A little bit of random info:
-I got bloodwork done pre-cycle and am going in early next week to get bloodwork done again once my PCT is over.
-I'm 6' 180lbs., ectomorph
Get yourself some Clomid and do your research for dosage. It will bring you back within 3-5 days from your Halotest-25 PH cycle.
People have said torem is better than nolva/clomid which is why I settled on that. Why do you suggest clomid? And what do you mean by it will bring me back within 3-5 days of the PH cycle?
I really don't see the point of getting bloodwork done right after your PCT. It can take months for your levels to return back to normal, and I can almost guarantee after PCT they will still be way off. Just my .02
i really don't see the point of getting bloodwork done right after your pct. It can take months for your levels to return back to normal, and i can almost guarantee after pct they will still be way off. Just my .02
I really don't see the point of getting bloodwork done right after your PCT. It can take months for your levels to return back to normal, and I can almost guarantee after PCT they will still be way off. Just my .02
How long does it take for everything to get back to normal numbers-wise then? I need to get blood drawn for some other stuff so I'll still get my test levels tested, I guess it'll just serve as an indicator of how well my natty PCT worked
Originally Posted by GMO
Run clomid for 4 weeks at 100/75/50/50 and you'll be fine.
I already ordered some torem, read a lot of good stuff on it in comparison to nolva and clomid. Planning on running it at 120/90/60/30.
My main questions still are whether it's going to be any different in the end for not running the SERM right away versus a month after my cycle, and also if it's okay to run torem and clen together.
mega - if you want your balls back in short order from your methyl clostebol run (halotest, pmag, etc) then you should use clomid as suggested - especially if you plan on keeping those recent gains, you need your balls back. Within 3-5 days of starting clomid, you will recover and start to really keep those gains.
Not going to get into a serm argument - do what you want, but if enough people are telling you clomid, I'd listen.
Regarding clen, if you're next effort is to cut, then take your appropriate time off cycle, then start another test-based cycle, use your clen then, and change your diet appropriately.
Good luck bro - congrats on your ph gains, hope you keep em.
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