Thread: Starting first cycle of H-Drol within a month of two, need some help

you need a serm for pct, and get an all-in-one cycle support like cycle assist or cycle support while on. Id suggest doing alot more research

Originally Posted by waynecross88

you need a serm for pct, and get an all-in-one cycle support like cycle assist or cycle support while on. Id suggest doing alot more research

H-drol is so mild you don't need a PCT, however if the OP wanted to he could do a OTC PCT.

Wayne, I suggest YOU do more research before you give advice.

Originally Posted by woogyboogy

I'm going to be starting my first cycle of H-drol within a month or two and I am just wondering what else I need for a PCT besides MT, Saw Palmetto, and Hawthorn. And Also when do you guys think I should start taking these If I do plan on starting my first H-drol cycle within a month or so. Please give me all the feedback possible. Thanks!

Stats?

Age/height/weight/BF%/training history

We need these to help you.

22 159 5'8, been lifting for about a year and 2 months

Max squat is 310, max bench is 255, max deadlift is 305

I really thought hdrol needed a pct? I mean it is methylated?

Can anyone clear up why one is not needed for it?

Originally Posted by hill450

I really thought hdrol needed a pct? I mean it is methylated?

Can anyone clear up why one is not needed for it?

Whether it is methylated or not has nothing to do with PCT. That has to do with the effect on your liver, which is why a cycle support product is recommended.

In terms of H-drol being a mild PH, that is true, BUT it will shut your natural test production down. Because of this I do recommend running clomid for PCT at 50/50/50/25. Can you recover with an OTC product? Probably, but nothing will do it faster and more successfully than a SERM.

Hell, you can recover from a Test cycle without a SERM, but it will take months to restore your natural test production, and you'll feel like shit. Why mess with your body, it is the only one you got.

Here's an example of someone who did a natty PCT and still had hypogonadism:

Ran a cycle of Halotest with natty PCT, need help

That is what I thought. Sorry for the confusion about methylated or not but I was thinking about testosterone recover and didn't type it. Anyway thanks for clearing that up.

At least do a TRS and have a serm on hand.

Originally Posted by woogyboogy

22 159 5'8, been lifting for about a year and 2 months

Max squat is 310, max bench is 255, max deadlift is 305

How often do you workout. When I was your age I lived at the gym and never took a day off. I was overtraing and never knew it.

Mon- Chest
Tuesday- Back & Shoulders
Wed- Off
Thurs- Legs
Friday-Arms

I do workout pretty hardcore for about an hour each visit. I'm currently using Creatine, White flood, Intrabolic, and a weight gainer, not sure if this matters what I figured the more info the better.

Originally Posted by woogyboogy

Mon- Chest
Tuesday- Back & Shoulders
Wed- Off
Thurs- Legs
Friday-Arms

I do workout pretty hardcore for about an hour each visit. I'm currently using Creatine, White flood, Intrabolic, and a weight gainer, not sure if this matters what I figured the more info the better.

At your age your metabolism is pretty high you'll need to overcome that, hows your diet?. one hour is pretty good. Are your lifting heavy, you should only be able to lift 4-8 reps.

I try to stay around 3300-3700 cals a day, And I'm pretty religious about it. And yes I lift heavy weights lower reps.

Here is an update on my plan:
Ok so...I plan on running Life support 2 weeks prior to my Hdrol cycle 50/75/75/75/75. I will continue to take that until my Hdrol cycle is over. Then I will start on Nolvadex 20/20/10/10.

Week 1-2: Life Support.
Week 2: Life Support along with H-Drol 50mg
Week 3-7: Life Support along with H-Drol 75mg
Week 7-9: Life Support along with Nolvadex 20mg possibly a test booster...not sure
Week 9-11: Life Support along with Nolvadex 10mg

Can you guys give me some type of help with this now? Does this look reasonable? Thanks!

looking much better, perhaps look into grabbing some taurine in case you get back pumps if needed, and bump of fish oils to around 5 g a day. Steroids take a toll on your immune system as well, id be taking a good multi vitamin and a bunch of vitamin c to make sure you dont get sick. And although h-drol is considered a milder, beginner compound there are countless peoples bloodwork on other forums showing it can in fact shut you down hard! Always better to play it safe and go serm

I just finished a cycle of hdrol. I was not impressed and I wish I would have used the money on some test instead.

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Originally Posted by Evil Eagle

I just finished a cycle of hdrol. I was not impressed and I wish I would have used the money on some test instead.

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Thats your diet bro... Hdrol is mild compared to some of the others out there but its pretty darn effective.

Except you have already been tasted AAS then ya, you wont be impressed.

Originally Posted by damage

Thats your diet bro... Hdrol is mild compared to some of the others out there but its pretty darn effective.

Except you have already been tasted AAS then ya, you wont be impressed.

That's not true. Some people don't respond to certain PH. For example, hdrol and a certain brand of SD did nothing to me (very, very small gains) there could have been any number of factors why, (not produced correctly, wrong dose, messed up pills, my diet) however it was certainly not my diet.

I've put 17 pounds AFTER pct with xtren and estane awhile back, with the same diet.

Each person responds differently. But then again I don't mess with PHs anymore because they can be as harsh as actual gear, if not worse with less results.

has anyone heard of taking steroids with food decreasing bioavailability? Dont remember where i heard it exactly, but maybe that could play a part in the effectiveness of a cycle too. But yeah oral steroids are almost always harsher than injectables especially on your liver, but i think theyre a good transition into the world of AAS as most people fear pinning at first.

this might be a dumb question...but where is the easiest place to buy Nolvadex?

Originally Posted by woogyboogy

this might be a dumb question...but where is the easiest place to buy Nolvadex?

probably extreme peptides because it's legal, inexpensive, and the shipping is fast (a week)

check out the sponsors and take your pick

Thanks for that...I never would have found that...but it seems like they only have the injectable kind...which would be a better solution?

Its not injectable. It's liquid, you use a oral syringe to get the dose.

Ok sorry for being so naive. Do you think thats the best place to buy it from? $40 for 20mg x 60ml each...seems good to me

Originally Posted by woogyboogy

Ok sorry for being so naive. Do you think thats the best place to buy it from? $40 for 20mg x 60ml each...seems good to me

i prefer pills because it's more exact than using an oral syringe but to each his own. extreme peptide has a great reputation and you can read up on some reviews on their sub-forum.

Where would you buy the pills from?

Originally Posted by damage

Thats your diet bro... Hdrol is mild compared to some of the others out there but its pretty darn effective.

Except you have already been tasted AAS then ya, you wont be impressed.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

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cant post links yet but search h-drol easy log finder on phf, its a thread that shows the logs of 30 or so people on h-drol, with average gains being 15.25 lbs in a cycle. H-drol can be very effective for a first cycle if everything is dialed in (diet, dosing, routine, intensity)

Originally Posted by waynecross88

cant post links yet but search h-drol easy log finder on phf, its a thread that shows the logs of 30 or so people on h-drol, with average gains being 15.25 lbs in a cycle. H-drol can be very effective for a first cycle if everything is dialed in (diet, dosing, routine, intensity)

You do realize you just said average right? Meaning some people get more, some people get less. When it comes to aas, some will respond great, others won't. Some will get gyno, some won't. Some will get acne, some won't. There is no way to know how someone will respond until they run it.

Me personally, ya I got 8 pounds off of it, and got stronger. But for the $65 I paid for 2 bottles, and another $65 for cycle support and liver juice, I could have paid for a good chunk of test e and not felt like shit on cycle.

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