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    Paranoid, should I run some nolva?

    I'm a little over 5 weeks in my test e/deca cycle and my nips have been sore, as they usually are on cycle but I may be being paranoid but it feels like I may have a small lump under my nipple, it feels as if its just on one side.

    Would I be dumb to jump on some nolva? Not puffy, no puss, they don't hurt unless I push on them, not itchy (they are now since i've been pushing on my nipple).

    I've been running adex .25 eod, uped to .40 eod about a week ago when they started to hurt a bit, now they'll only hurt as I said when I press on them. Sponsor adex too.

    Never had any signs/problems before. I have had my nips hurt a little on cycle, but that goes away.

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    I've been in that situation before and Nolva didn't do squat. I bought some Letro from a sponsor (Extreme Peptide) and 90% of my problem went away overnight. The rest went away shortly thereafter.

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    I run nova during my cycle just because I don't want to take chance

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    LOL stop pushing on them and they will stop hurting. I think you will be fine. I would run the adex at .5 eod and if you want to, just run nolva for a week. Only thing is running nolva with adex will cause the adex to not work as well. This is why I recommend aromasin. This will not happen with aromasin. SO you could run both or you could up the adex maybe even up to 1mg eod. It doesn't sound to serious and I think you are paranoid to begin with so you probably check them all the time. This means you would catch it in the earlier stages which is what I think is going on here. Just up the adex IMO. My nipples never get sore on cycle so you should be taking more adew eod once you get this under control maybe use .5 eod.





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    like tgb1987 said run push adex up to .5, but if that don't work than start running letrozole,( femara ) 2.5mg , that will knock out your gyno in no time, beware it will also knock out your sex life too.

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    if your running adex then it prolly aint the test giving you problems it the deca which is prolactin gyno which you need bromo for that. no nolva

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    Quote Originally Posted by strategos14 View Post
    if your running adex then it prolly aint the test giving you problems it the deca which is prolactin gyno which you need bromo for that. no nolva

    ......or Caber or Prami

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Pimpin View Post
    I've been in that situation before and Nolva didn't do squat. I bought some Letro from a sponsor (Extreme Peptide) and 90% of my problem went away overnight. The rest went away shortly thereafter.
    what was your dosing protocol? did you stop the cycle? if not did you run letro for remainder of cycle?

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    Which route would be the safest, yet not hinder my gains? Some say nolva, some not.
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    Increase Adex. Are you taking prami or caber? This may be the problem. You should always use these anytime you use a 19-Nor compound.





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    I'm not using either. I was never recommended nor read about it with deca. You don't think I should just on something stronger?

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    Pick up some Cabaser. Until then I would use nolva with adex. If you have aromasin switch out the adex for the asin and use nolva with it. You probably need the caber though asap. Prolactin build up can cause gyno too.





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    Going to run prami, which is the correct dosage and do I stop when I stop the deca?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GymRat707 View Post
    Going to run prami, which is the correct dosage and do I stop when I stop the deca?

    A couple of things.

    First, don't you EVER run nolva while running a 19nor unless you want the problem to become worse, Next, get yourself some pramipexole yesterday and start it at .10mg ED every 3-4 days increase it by .5mg until you're at .25-.30mg ED. DOSE IT ED, this is important. Last, I have posted about pramipexole and caber for almost a year now there is no excuse for your fu^k up. That last part is a joke.

    I'm 99.9% sure your issue is related to progestin.

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    Thanks CT did not think about the nolva making this worse. Listen to his dosing Gymrat.





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    I been having the same issue with my nips soar and puffy, it's real fucking annoying. I was just going to take Comid for a week or so since my cycle is over anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    A couple of things.

    First, don't you EVER run nolva while running a 19nor unless you want the problem to become worse, Next, get yourself some pramipexole yesterday and start it at .10mg ED every 3-4 days increase it by .5mg until you're at .25-.30mg ED. DOSE IT ED, this is important. Last, I have posted about pramipexole and caber for almost a year now there is no excuse for your fu^k up. That last part is a joke.

    I'm 99.9% sure your issue is related to progestin.
    Wow, I had a HUGE brain fart. I knew not to run nolva with 19-nor, hence I'm not doing it PCT, thanks for reminding me. How long should I run it, until im off deca + what amount of time?

    I'd rep you, but I have to spread before giving it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GymRat707 View Post
    Wow, I had a HUGE brain fart. I knew not to run nolva with 19-nor, hence I'm not doing it PCT, thanks for reminding me. How long should I run it, until im off deca + what amount of time?

    I'd rep you, but I have to spread before giving it again.

    Run what the pramipexole? 3-4 weeks after stopping the deca to be on the safe side.

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    CT, would you recommend I take some letro? Or wait if it gets "worse"? It actually doesn't feel as bad as it was.

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    Exclamation

    I've ran adex at .5ml ed for awhile, as well as prami @ .25 ed. Lump still there, I want to use letro. What should I dose at, and how long? (Been reading 1ml to 1.25ml) It's not a big bump, but I hope that shit goes away. Can I continue the adex? I have a feeling this adex was garbage, and it came from a sponsor.
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    Bump, started at 1mg.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GymRat707 View Post
    I've ran adex at .5ml ed for awhile, as well as prami @ .25 ed. Lump still there, I want to use letro. What should I dose at, and how long? (Been reading 1ml to 1.25ml) It's not a big bump, but I hope that shit goes away. Can I continue the adex? I have a feeling this adex was garbage, and it came from a sponsor.

    Increase the Pramipexole .10-.20mg ED and stick with the letro. 1.25mg ED to start. Give the letro some time to build up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234 View Post
    like tgb1987 said run push adex up to .5, but if that don't work than start running letrozole,( femara ) 2.5mg , that will knock out your gyno in no time, beware it will also knock out your sex life too.
    even on test?

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    Prami has been at .25 ED, so go to .35 ED? How long should I stay on the letro? I'm assuming stop the adex?

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    Are you having leakage from the nip? Has the lump continued to grow? Are you sure it wasn't already there from puberty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolfan84 View Post
    Are you having leakage from the nip? Has the lump continued to grow? Are you sure it wasn't already there from puberty?
    No leakage, no more soreness, and it has not grown. It was not there before.

    Still curious about my above Q's.

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    If you're running letro I see no reason to continue with the adex.

    Start at 1.25mg as CT stated, most end up at around 2.5mg per day, but you just have to see how you respond, google logs to see typical side effects. Once again, as CT said, it will take a while to build up and it may be up to a few weeks before you see results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GymRat707 View Post
    Prami has been at .25 ED, so go to .35 ED? How long should I stay on the letro? I'm assuming stop the adex?
    Yes on the prami up it to .35-.40mg ED. If the sides are too much split the dose 1/2 am 1/2 pm. Stay on the letro until you feel as if the lump is gone. Be careful, letro is VERY powerful and will kill your joints and libido if over used BUT if you have to be that way for a little while instead of having surgery it's pretty easy to make a decision. Good luck.

    If the letro doesn't knock it out soon then we'll KNOW it's a progestin problem and you'll be able to drop the letro completely and just adjust the prami dose. Prami is VERY powerful also so one way or another....the problem will be solved.

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    I stop deca in 2 weeks as well. Thankfully the lump hasn't gotten much bigger if at all it may be 1/4" length but it is hard but my nipple doesn't hurt.

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    Well if it IS progestin related you'll have to run the prami at least 3 weeks after you stop the deca.

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