Thread: Test Cyp?

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whats the sides like with the gram dose?im planning on ending my cycle there?

Originally Posted by Vlakkie

off topic...
whats the sides like with the gram dose?im planning on ending my cycle there?

How about you start your own thread instead of hijacking mine.

touchy....lol
soz dude was just asking a QUESTION seeing that you there where i wana be...SOZ AGAIN

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

I've been running a gram of cyp per week and I'm now 5 weeks 2 days into my cycle. I'm running tren along with dbol and I've gained size (13lb) and strength however my libido is not firing and I haven't experienced sensitive nips yet. Balls have shrunk slightly but nothing major and I did experience a small bout of acne which cleared up quickly.

I trust my source and I have read on many forums that cyp takes up to 6-8 weeks for you to "feel" it.

Is is it common for cyp to take so long to kick in? I'm getting bloodwork done soon however I'm not sure how long it will take to get the results back.

What do you guys think?

I have not had than experience personally I am taking 400mg a week with no issues. However I am not stacking yet

It shouldn't take 6-8 weeks for TC to kick in. It's only 1 carbon heavier on the ester compared to TE. Really, you should be feeling it around week 4 as the T 1/2 is only around 8 days.

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

I've been running a gram of cyp per week and I'm now 5 weeks 2 days into my cycle. I'm running tren along with dbol and I've gained size (13lb) and strength however my libido is not firing and I haven't experienced sensitive nips yet. Balls have shrunk slightly but nothing major and I did experience a small bout of acne which cleared up quickly.

I trust my source and I have read on many forums that cyp takes up to 6-8 weeks for you to "feel" it.

Is is it common for cyp to take so long to kick in? I'm getting bloodwork done soon however I'm not sure how long it will take to get the results back.

What do you guys think?

I think it's a progestin / estrogen issue possibly. What A/I or D/A are you using with this? How much tren are you running?

You should be feeling the cyp within 3-4 weeks also at that dose, maybe sooner.

With the Tren Caber or Prami is always a good option, in addition to your A/I of choice.

Yep, a good 3 weeks to "see" and feel the Cyp. But since you're stacking, the effects you're feeling should be a combination of everything. You can't really pinpoint the Cyp responsible for "this" and the Tren is causing "that" and the Dbol, etc etc. When are you getting your blood levels done? The cyp is most likely working (assuming it's legit) and you may not necessarily get sensitive nips, etc. Everyone is different. Although if I take Cyp or E w/out an AI, my nips get sensitive just by looking at them.

when you say u think it's a progestin / estrogen issue possibly what do u mean by this ??

4 weeks tops with cyp you'll feel the full affect. But you will, with out a doubt feel the increase in libido by your 5th shot (or by the start of week 3). i always feel it b/w 4th and 5th. and the same with the enanthate ester. but hey everyone is diff. AND you didnt mention what the tren dose is. I ran tren e/test e at 300/400. and the libido was great, so i doubt if that ,matters if youre shit is legit. You said your libido hasnt "fired up" but i assume its there. My opinion, your test is underdosed, but its doing the job. With NO test, youre dick would be a noodle

Originally Posted by shortstop

4 weeks tops with cyp you'll feel the full affect. But you will, with out a doubt feel the increase in libido by your 5th shot (or by the start of week 3). i always feel it b/w 4th and 5th. and the same with the enanthate ester. but hey everyone is diff. AND you didnt mention what the tren dose is. I ran tren e/test e at 300/400. and the libido was great, so i doubt if that ,matters if youre shit is legit. You said your libido hasnt "fired up" but i assume its there. My opinion, your test is underdosed, but its doing the job. With NO test, youre dick would be a noodle

This would also be my first guess. the test may be underdosed.. did you get all the gear from the same supplier? Not that that would prove anything one way or another. just curious....

Originally Posted by CT

I think it's a progestin / estrogen issue possibly. What A/I or D/A are you using with this? How much tren are you running?

You should be feeling the cyp within 3-4 weeks also at that dose, maybe sooner.

I'm running:
490mg tren A/week
1000mg test cyp/week
35mg Dbol ED

In my previous cycle I ran 420mg/ week of the same UGL Tren A therefore I've only bumped it up a little. Where as I ran 500mg Test prop/week and my nipples were extremely sensitive.

I have caber, aromasin and letro on hand but I don't have even the slightest sensitivity in my nips yet.

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

I'm running:
490mg tren A/week
1000mg test cyp/week
35mg Dbol ED

In my previous cycle I ran 420mg/ week of the same UGL Tren A therefore I've only bumped it up a little. Where as I ran 500mg Test prop/week and my nipples were extremely sensitive.

I have caber, aromasin and letro on hand but I don't have even the slightest sensitivity in my nips yet.

1000mg test per week? Wow I only take 400mg per week but I am new to taking it.

Originally Posted by BigBird

Yep, a good 3 weeks to "see" and feel the Cyp. But since you're stacking, the effects you're feeling should be a combination of everything. You can't really pinpoint the Cyp responsible for "this" and the Tren is causing "that" and the Dbol, etc etc. When are you getting your blood levels done? The cyp is most likely working (assuming it's legit) and you may not necessarily get sensitive nips, etc. Everyone is different. Although if I take Cyp or E w/out an AI, my nips get sensitive just by looking at them.

BigBird, why would you think that my nips would be hard as a rock dosing 500mg test prop/week yet running a gram of cyp I dont experience anything of the sort?

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

BigBird, why would you think that my nips would be hard as a rock dosing 500mg test prop/week yet running a gram of cyp I dont experience anything of the sort?

That's a tough one. Since you were also running Tren w/ the Test Prop as well, I'm at a loss to explain the nip situation. The Prop has a shorter ester obviously and would cause nip discomfort sooner but you're not even getting any discomfort on 1000mg Cyp! And although you have your AIs on hand you're not even taking them? I would ask for an Endocrinologist or an Andrologist to attempt to answer this one. Short of calling your Cyp underdosed or bunk, I'm at a loss.

I can tell by Mr Happy when Cyp first starts kicking in and that's usually with in the first week or two.

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

I'm running:
490mg tren A/week
1000mg test cyp/week
35mg Dbol ED

In my previous cycle I ran 420mg/ week of the same UGL Tren A therefore I've only bumped it up a little. Where as I ran 500mg Test prop/week and my nipples were extremely sensitive.

I have caber, aromasin and letro on hand but I don't have even the slightest sensitivity in my nips yet.

The ratios are fine. Honestly, you don't need to have sensitive nipples in order to start having issues. I would run the caber and a low dose aromasin just to be on the safe side. Something like 12.5mg aromasin ED and .25-.5mg caber E3D. I would consider the .5mg dose until your libido returns and you're throwing ropes left and right.

Anytime you do the same cycle expect things to be different. For whatever reason your body isn't responding like it did last time.

The only other issue I can see is that you might be totally stressed out or having issues with something going on in your life. If not it's the progestin/estrogen ratio.

I hope that helps.

Originally Posted by rippedunit

when you say u think it's a progestin / estrogen issue possibly what do u mean by this ??

We need estrogen to function. Too much and we turn into girls and too little leads to sore joints, sexual dysfunction and other issues. It's a balancing act. Same with progestins, too much and you're lactating and can't finish while having intercourse, too little and your hormone panel is out of balance.

The bottom line is if either of these ratios are too far out of order so are we. That's why it's important to always use an A/I and a D/A while running a amortizing compound or a 19nor.

Make sense?

Originally Posted by CT

We need estrogen to function. Too much and we turn into girls and too little leads to sore joints, sexual dysfunction and other issues. It's a balancing act. Same with progestins, too much and you're lactating and can't finish while having intercourse, too little and your hormone panel is out of balance.

The bottom line is if either of these ratios are too far out of order so are we. That's why it's important to always use an A/I and a D/A while running a amortizing compound or a 19nor.

Make sense?

^^^Good post

Originally Posted by CT

The ratios are fine. Honestly, you don't need to have sensitive nipples in order to start having issues. I would run the caber and a low dose aromasin just to be on the safe side. Something like 12.5mg aromasin ED and .25-.5mg caber E3D. I would consider the .5mg dose until your libido returns and you're throwing ropes left and right.

Anytime you do the same cycle expect things to be different. For whatever reason your body isn't responding like it did last time.

The only other issue I can see is that you might be totally stressed out or having issues with something going on in your life. If not it's the progestin/estrogen ratio.

I hope that helps.

Wow CT, not only are you in the know with gears but you seem to have a crystal ball aswell.
My libido is fine I guess as everything is working, its just not crazy like it was during my last cycle. I've started dosing caber this morning and the only reason I haven't started aromasin is due to sore knees. Squats are my favourite lift and I couldn't handle anymore knee pain at the moment but I realise I dont have much of a choice when it comes to using AIs at such a dose of test.
I'll work on reducing the stress in my life too.

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

Wow CT, not only are you in the know with gears but you seem to have a crystal ball aswell.
My libido is fine I guess as everything is working, its just not crazy like it was during my last cycle. I've started dosing caber this morning and the only reason I haven't started aromasin is due to sore knees. Squats are my favourite lift and I couldn't handle anymore knee pain at the moment but I realise I dont have much of a choice when it comes to using AIs at such a dose of test.
I'll work on reducing the stress in my life too.

If your knees are bothering you that bad cut the aromasin back some. It's powerful stuff and kills E2.

Good luck, and thanks for the props. Let me know how the libido comes back after using the caber for a couple of weeks. The same thing happened to me a long time ago, it's a constant game of adjustments.