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    Im 15 days in on my first cycle and ive had acouple small problems that worry me. Im runnung Test E on my cycle.when i hit my shoulders i get no pain the next day and only a speck of blood if any will come out. when i do my quads my leg hurts like fuck to 2 days and my knee is swollen like a beach ball. happens everytime i do quads. im not doing quads anymore. so i did shoulders again last night and i told you before i barely ever bleed. well i left the needle in for about 45 seconds after the injection and the same second i pulled it out blood poured down my arm and into the sink for 30 seconds then just stopped. I was scared for those 30 seconds. today i have no swelling in my shoulder or any pain like when i do quads. Also since i bleeded out so much should i re-inject again since i probably lost everything i shot up?
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    Its just blood dude. Youve cut your finger before. It bleeds like a motherfucker, but you didnt freak out did you. You hit a vein. No big deal. I highly doubt you lost much oil. If you were in deep enough its just not gonna gush right back out of the pin hole. You prolly lost a little but nothing to worry about. Just a suggestion, but you have a lot less chance of hitting a bleeder if you inject in the glutes. Very rarely do people bleed more than a pea sized drop. I never bleed at all plus you can use a inch and a half needle to get deeper in the muscle. Just my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Work IN Progress View Post
    Its just blood dude. Youve cut your finger before. It bleeds like a motherfucker, but you didnt freak out did you. You hit a vein. No big deal. I highly doubt you lost much oil. If you were in deep enough its just not gonna gush right back out of the pin hole. You prolly lost a little but nothing to worry about. Just a suggestion, but you have a lot less chance of hitting a bleeder if you inject in the glutes. Very rarely do people bleed more than a pea sized drop. I never bleed at all plus you can use a inch and a half needle to get deeper in the muscle. Just my 2 cents.
    Good advice I switch back and forth from one side to the next! Also draw back a little if blood comes in move over your in a vein! Also test should never be put in intervenius just an fyi

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    In the proper light, I can see where the veins are under the skin on my delt. I pick a spot between veins and never have more than a speck of blood appear after pulling out the pin (that is, after wife pulls out pin). I use a 23 ga. 1" pin for the delt and insert the pin more than 1/2 way, around 3/4 of the length of the pin. I use a 22ga. 1-1/2" for glutes and pin goes all the way in. That being said, you probably nicked a vein or even capillaries but this is likely to happen once in a while. Just be sure you don't inject into the actual vein. See if your veins are noticeable in bright light and go from there.

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    The blood could be from small blood vessals that wear cut on the way in would not reinject I've never seen a conserned dr when the inject you with anything and bleed after seem concerned the injection should push it into the muscle.It will bleed more if you leave the needle in longer cus the hole doesnt close up as fast after you pull it out.

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    For now i'm to much of a puss to inject not a blood or pain thing just dont know much about it

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    Im using a 23G 1" needle. Is this long enough to use on the glutes? And i didnt freak out i was scared for those 30 seconds though because i never bleed and blood came out pretty good. Whats the deal with only my quads hurting for acouple days after and my knee swelling. If you think 23g 1" is long enough then ill try the glutes next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitemike370 View Post
    Im using a 23G 1" needle. Is this long enough to use on the glutes? And i didnt freak out i was scared for those 30 seconds though because i never bleed and blood came out pretty good. Whats the deal with only my quads hurting for acouple days after and my knee swelling. If you think 23g 1" is long enough then ill try the glutes next.
    Where are you injecting in your quad?

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    the upper right muscle on my legs

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    Do you have a lot of meat to work with on your legs? Sounds like your hitting a nerve to me.

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    no im not a fattty I think ill just stay away from my quads and try the glutes next if 23g 1" needle will work?

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    1" is fine for glutes as long as you're not a fat disgusting pile of shit. As long as you're not, the pin will be able to penetrate into the actual glute muscle. I only use 1-1/2" in glutes b/c I have a choice and I figured the deeper the better but I'm sure I could get along just fine with 1". Just be sure your push the pin all the way in. Upper/outer quadrant of glute is for pinning. There are illustrations on the web which show exactly where but you have more room to work with when pinning glute. Just stay away from the centerline of the cheeks and you'll be ok. I've never hit my sciatic nerve but I've heard horror stories about it.

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    I think ill try my glutes next time. I dont think the shoulder is bad at all either, i just got alitttle nervous when all the blood poured out last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitemike370 View Post
    no im not a fattty I think ill just stay away from my quads and try the glutes next if 23g 1" needle will work?
    I was talking about muscle on your legs. We've all seen the guys at the gym with huge upper bodies and chicken legs. I think if those guys pinned their quads they'd hit bone. Lol

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    sounds like your pinning the wrong spot in your quad, bro... Find you a diagram with real pics to see if your even in the right spot.. I mostly just use 1''23 guage or a 21 1'' sometimes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getfit75 View Post
    sounds like your pinning the wrong spot in your quad, bro... Find you a diagram with real pics to see if your even in the right spot.. I mostly just use 1''23 guage or a 21 1'' sometimes...
    21 gauge, eh?! The old Sustanon pre-loads use to come that way. Might as well stick yourself with a railroad spike. Ouch.

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    yep its a harpoon for sure! I use it for glutes only.. I have a bunch i got from a buddy.. I use em for back ups or if something is crazy thick.

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    Im just going to stay away from quads because i checked that site and i hit it right on the money. maybe im just sensitive there. One more question for you guys. how much does your normal blood pressure go up when your on gear? mine is through the roof right now. diastolic is normal. systolic is 150 ( high) and BPM is 112 (VERY HIGH ). i checked before i started and everything was normal and my BPM was 76-82 BPM.

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