Thread: All Oral Cycle

Originally Posted by Vick

Considering a healthy liver that's well protected with no alcohol, any suggestions on an oral cycle?

I like Anavar, Proviron, MHN, Clomid and Letro for the increase of natural testosterone. . Anyone with experience with an all oral cycle?

Don't be scared of the pins bud...

...I'm assuming this is to avoid virilization?

edit:nvm, read about the increase of test. Is this a woman?

test at 500mg you'll be happier with it

lol I'll bump this so people can see it homie.

I believe Anadrol has always the best for strenth and size if you take it with clomid and nolvadex and if you follow it with a mild oral like Anavar and Proviron it all pans out.

Take them all at the same time you asked the same crap in another thread now your here dude do whatever

All oral cycles are not a good idea. They are hard on the body and the gains are very hard to keep post cycle.

Horrible idea

Originally Posted by tgb1987

all oral cycles are not a good idea. They are hard on the body and the gains are very hard to keep post cycle.

+1

Originally Posted by Vick

Considering a healthy liver that's well protected with no alcohol, any suggestions on an oral cycle?

I like Anavar, Proviron, MHN, Clomid and Letro for the increase of natural testosterone. . Anyone with experience with an all oral cycle?

I see you have tried MHN. What was it like in terms of gains/sides? What was your dosing and how long did you run it?

As far as running oral only cycles: easy come, easy go. The more explosive/dramatic your gains, the less likely it will be for you to keep post cycle. You just put on 25 lbs of mass and you expect your underfunctioning balls to return to normal in time to sustain that mass? not likely imo

I have run several oral only cycles. Some went better than others. The compound will dictate your overall experience. For instance, i enjoyed pplex as a solo cycle back in 08.

isnt the op a chick? 3rd Eye Brown's sister?

Yes I believe you are right. Like any woman she just dont listen to good either!

Originally Posted by SFW

I see you have tried MHN. What was it like in terms of gains/sides? What was your dosing and how long did you run it?

As far as running oral only cycles: easy come, easy go. The more explosive/dramatic your gains, the less likely it will be for you to keep post cycle. You just put on 25 lbs of mass and you expect your underfunctioning balls to return to normal in time to sustain that mass? not likely imo

I have run several oral only cycles. Some went better than others. The compound will dictate your overall experience. For instance, i enjoyed pplex as a solo cycle back in 08.

I havent tried MHN. just liked what I read. Some orals are known to stick like Anavar when you can afford them. My theory is this, if Anadrol is the most effective and you can afford the clomid and nolvadex with it for 3 weeks only and then continue with mild antiestrogens like Proviron and Winstrol and finish up with precontest orals like Anavar and Oral Tren if it's for real then what's the problem for a first cycle when everything's fresh. I would like to know if anyone has tried MHN, but sounds to good to be true. All these new orals I never thought possible back when I was taking Halotestins to harden up after a cycle of the Organon Deca 100mg/cc 2cc vials with the rubber tops and Cypionate and Enanthate Amps when my friends in Greece were around, Bill Mougios and Olympia Skouvara at Vipharm before they got shut down.

Dude the glory days are over! All orals are to be used in conjunction with inj test. Ask your frien mr Olympia and I gaurentee he will tell you the same! If you are looking for validation on your stupid ass theory look elsewhere as this forum caters to people looking to improve there physique not get put in the hospital, or turn into a female from permanent testicular atrophie. K

First off I'm not asking anyone to tell me what I should do or I would give my stats. I'm only trying to get reviews on orals that I don't see any reviews of or see conflicting reviews. I like that the anabolic numbers on MHN and Anavar are higher than Test. So far this is what I've had to go on:
Keep in mind the rating and mg dose come into play, take Cheque drops, if you took 100mg ED of this it will destroy your liver in no time but if you took 100mg of Winny you would be fine. ratios
Slightly less hepatoxic than most 17-alpha alkylated substrates, so it can be used a bit longer, as long as 8 weeks, but longer than that is not wise. Steroid Profiles By Big Cat and others
Winstrol counteracts estrogenic side effects such as gyno and water retention - another quality which makes it attractive to the athlete seeking lean mass gains. Winstrol is a 5-alpha reduced substrate. 5-alpha reduction breaks the double bond between positions 4 and 5, which is what is required for aromatase to convert to estrogen. Aromatase is the primary enzyme used for the manufacturing of estrogen within the male body. For avoiding gyno, winstrol is well suited.

Since winstrol is not capable of converting into estrogen, anti-estrogen ancillary drugs such asNolvadex or Clomid are not necessary when using this steroid. Gyno will not be a concern for even the most sensitive individuals when using this steroid. Winstrol is excellent for lean gains since water retention is reduced when using this steroid. This is due to the fact that estrogen is the cause of water retention. It is excellent to use among athletes who are seeking for a combination of both strength and speed.

Another point about stanozolol is its supposed anti-progestagenic effects. Winstrol is said to bind and compete for a position at the progesterone receptor in much the same way that clomid or nolvadex does at the estrogen receptor. This is said to cause winstrol to inhibit progestagenic effects. Progesterone does play a role in the development of gyno since it can aggravate estrogenic side-effects by agonizing estrogen and it also plays a role in gyno. http://hardbody1.com/Winstrol.html

oxandrolone has found frequent applications in the treatment of other wasting symptoms for hepatitis Mostly it is used for decent strength gains without gaining too much weight, particularly suited for weight- and powerlifters and martial artists. In that aspect, and in my humble opinion, Winstrol would be a good choice for a stack. 50 mg of Winstrol every day to every other day stacked with 30-40 mg of oxandrolone daily would give a very good result in overall strength enhancement Steroid Profiles By Big Cat and others

So any links to actual reviews on MHN or Oral Primo?

Originally Posted by SFW

I see you have tried MHN. What was it like in terms of gains/sides? What was your dosing and how long did you run it?

As far as running oral only cycles: easy come, easy go. The more explosive/dramatic your gains, the less likely it will be for you to keep post cycle. You just put on 25 lbs of mass and you expect your underfunctioning balls to return to normal in time to sustain that mass? not likely imo

I have run several oral only cycles. Some went better than others. The compound will dictate your overall experience. For instance, i enjoyed pplex as a solo cycle back in 08.

+1 on p-plex, that was my first and only cycle so far, was afraid of needles lol so I researched everything for a while and everything was pointing to an sdrol or pplex clone, and pplex seems to give as good or better results with alot less sides. I was actually pretty damn happy with it, the gains were kinda wet so I lost a bit in pct but I probably kept around 8-9 pounds, are there any clones still around? I was thinking of running it in my first cycle possibly in place of dbol with test-e

Originally Posted by Digitalash

+1 on p-plex, that was my first and only cycle so far, was afraid of needles lol so I researched everything for a while and everything was pointing to an sdrol or pplex clone, and pplex seems to give as good or better results with alot less sides. I was actually pretty damn happy with it, the gains were kinda wet so I lost a bit in pct but I probably kept around 8-9 pounds, are there any clones still around? I was thinking of running it in my first cycle possibly in place of dbol with test-e

any llinks to profiles or reviews on this?

Originally Posted by Vick

any llinks to profiles or reviews on this?

I think it may be discontinued now, if not illegal, someone else might know, but you can google "pheraplex" and find out anything you want to know about it


But again, all oral cycles = not advisable

Originally Posted by Vick

Considering a healthy liver that's well protected with no alcohol, any suggestions on an oral cycle?

I like Anavar, Proviron, MHN, Clomid and Letro for the increase of natural testosterone. . Anyone with experience with an all oral cycle?

Ok so you are not asking for advice that is why you do not want to post your stats huh? What does this say ^ ? That is your first post of this thread and it sounds like you are asking for suggestions on an all oral cycle. This means you need to post stats or this thread will be closed as well. You are not going to get anyone to go along with your choice of an all oral cycle. This is outdated and everyone knows that you need to run injectables with orals to get results that last. Secondly Anavar, proviron, MHN are AAS they will lower natural test levels. Now read the rules or your thread will be closed again.
Cycle Advice

Everyone has been trying to help you but you are too stubborn to listen to advice. I am willing to help anyone and have helped many others. I answer my PMs daily and do my best to get answers but I will not give advice to someone who is insisting on doing something improperly. People like this can not be reached and a waste of time. There are others that need the advice and will listen and have great results with limited risk. If you don't wand advice and only want information then you shouldn't of started a thread. All you have to do is use internet to run a search. It is that simple.

Originally Posted by Vick

First off I'm not asking anyone to tell me what I should do or I would give my stats. I'm only trying to get reviews on orals that I don't see any reviews of or see conflicting reviews. I like that the anabolic numbers on MHN and Anavar are higher than Test. So far this is what I've had to go on:
Keep in mind the rating and mg dose come into play, take Cheque drops, if you took 100mg ED of this it will destroy your liver in no time but if you took 100mg of Winny you would be fine. ratios
Slightly less hepatoxic than most 17-alpha alkylated substrates, so it can be used a bit longer, as long as 8 weeks, but longer than that is not wise. Steroid Profiles By Big Cat and others
Winstrol counteracts estrogenic side effects such as gyno and water retention - another quality which makes it attractive to the athlete seeking lean mass gains. Winstrol is a 5-alpha reduced substrate. 5-alpha reduction breaks the double bond between positions 4 and 5, which is what is required for aromatase to convert to estrogen. Aromatase is the primary enzyme used for the manufacturing of estrogen within the male body. For avoiding gyno, winstrol is well suited.

Since winstrol is not capable of converting into estrogen, anti-estrogen ancillary drugs such asNolvadex or Clomid are not necessary when using this steroid. Gyno will not be a concern for even the most sensitive individuals when using this steroid. Winstrol is excellent for lean gains since water retention is reduced when using this steroid. This is due to the fact that estrogen is the cause of water retention. It is excellent to use among athletes who are seeking for a combination of both strength and speed.

Another point about stanozolol is its supposed anti-progestagenic effects. Winstrol is said to bind and compete for a position at the progesterone receptor in much the same way that clomid or nolvadex does at the estrogen receptor. This is said to cause winstrol to inhibit progestagenic effects. Progesterone does play a role in the development of gyno since it can aggravate estrogenic side-effects by agonizing estrogen and it also plays a role in gyno. http://hardbody1.com/Winstrol.html

oxandrolone has found frequent applications in the treatment of other wasting symptoms for hepatitis Mostly it is used for decent strength gains without gaining too much weight, particularly suited for weight- and powerlifters and martial artists. In that aspect, and in my humble opinion, Winstrol would be a good choice for a stack. 50 mg of Winstrol every day to every other day stacked with 30-40 mg of oxandrolone daily would give a very good result in overall strength enhancement Steroid Profiles By Big Cat and others

So any links to actual reviews on MHN or Oral Primo?

I've just been choosing to take advice from Big Cat, HB1 and others. Nothing personal to anyone else but what I do is personal. Doesn't seem like anyone has been able to afford Oral Primo or has accurate profiles on MHN. I get that Winstrol and Anavar are bad long term. Rest assured I wouldn't be taking 50mg of Winstrol for longer than 3 weeks before switching to something that isn't 17AA. I was hoping somebody might suggest using 2 every other day like Big Cat did, but nothing. I'm also guaging the quality of products and nobody is raving about anything.

Originally Posted by Vick

Rest assured I wouldn't be taking 50mg of Winstrol for longer than 3 weeks before switching to something that isn't 17AA. I was hoping somebody might suggest using 2 every other day like Big Cat did, but nothing. I'm also guaging the quality of products and nobody is raving about anything.

may be wrong, but I think the vast majority of orals are 17AA, and those that aren't usually aren't very effective, that's one of the major reasons no one suggests oral only cycles

Oh and there are plenty of things people are raving about, but they're usually test, tren, deca etc. and that's not what you wanna hear. Nothing wrong with reading up on all the orals, there may be some designers out there that rival the usual anabolics that come up (I would think p-plex would rate pretty high as an oral). But if I were you I would take the advice people are giving, pick your oral, and stick a pin in your ass cheek twice a week. Injections are scary to most but a modern hypodermic is so fucking sharp you honestly barely feel it at all, and if you're even a little bit careful everything will be perfectly sterile. That's the big hurdle for you I'm imagining, and it is for a lot of people (myself included), but you just have to sack up a bit and listen to all the people telling you its really not bad. Plus you are going to feel like shit on an oral cycle with no test, I'd much rather feel awesome the whole time and make great gains.

Originally Posted by Vick

, any suggestions on an oral cycle?

Originally Posted by Vick

First off I'm not asking anyone to tell me what I should do

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Dont flame people for advising you that oral only cycles are terrible when you asked for advice. TGB is right.

-T

Trying to find Madol to stack with Proviron. Would also like to find Dimethyltrienolone.

Originally Posted by Vick

Trying to find Madol to stack with Proviron. Would also like to find Dimethyltrienolone.

Cn someone close these threads some new guy that's scared of pins like this piece of work is gonna read this crap and mess themselves up.

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

Can someone close my threads some new guy that's scared of this crap mess themselves .

Hey Vick nicely done I know exactly what kind of guy you are. I see them at the gym decked out in the sickest 90s bb gear with a headband and gloves. You only do bb bench press with 135 lbs. You walk around and talk to all the real bbs about how big you "used" to be. Then you walk your old ass into the change room where you hang out after showering with your tiny inverted pecker and shriveled up all oral stack balls on full display. Give it up do test or go on pro hormones but please stop beating this dead horse

Like in the other thread, where others and myself posted, none of these orals will increase test. Only shut you down where you aren't producing any. The only way to do it correctly is to take some form of test along with an oral for jumpstart. Orals aren't meant to be the cycle. Again, please consider taking some advice and do some more study and ask some legit questions. This thread is closed.

Lets give up DG, some people just wont listen... what do we know anyways....

Originally Posted by dg806

Like in the other thread, where others and myself posted, none of these orals will increase test. Only shut you down where you aren't producing any. The only way to do it correctly is to take some form of test along with an oral for jumpstart. Orals aren't meant to be the cycle. Again, please consider taking some advice and do some more study and ask some legit questions. This thread is closed.