Thread: pros opinions

looks good for 1st cycle i would stay away from 2 orals in one cycle

I might start the cyp just a tad higher but thats entirely up to you. Other than that id say "GOOD FEEDBACK"

Originally Posted by jbt0214

This question is geared toward those of you that have been in the game a long time. I am male/34/BF flux between 12-14%, decade plus lifting experience, not much with AAS, running a 3 day split of upper and lower body with upper cut into front and back.
Would like to run Test C at 400 mg for 10 weeks w/ a Dbol kickstart weeks 1-4 @ 30 mgs a day and ending with Anavar weeks 7-10 at 40 mgs/day. AI will be anastrozole at .5 eod, still working on PCT. I haven't ordered any product yet and am asking for any feedback good or bad, thank you gentlemen.

I would run the Test for 12 weeks rather than 10, but other than that...it looks good. If you weigh over 200lbs however, I would up the d-bol and anavar dosage to 40-50mg and 60-80mg respectively.

I also prefer Aromasin over A-dex, but that's just me.

PCT should be Clomid @ 100/100/75/50

Originally Posted by GMO

I would run the Test for 12 weeks rather than 10, but other than that...it looks good. If you weigh over 200lbs however, I would up the d-bol and anavar dosage to 40-50mg and 60-80mg respectively.

I also prefer Aromasin over A-dex, but that's just me.

PCT should be Clomid @ 100/100/75/50

Thanks GMO, you are one of the guys I look to frequently to see what you say about other guys needing opinions, bodyweight is 185. Do you think there is a benefit to finishing the cycle with Anavar or should I leave it alone?

Originally Posted by GMO

I would run the Test for 12 weeks rather than 10, but other than that...it looks good. If you weigh over 200lbs however, I would up the d-bol and anavar dosage to 40-50mg and 60-80mg respectively.

I also prefer Aromasin over A-dex, but that's just me.

PCT should be Clomid @ 100/100/75/50

This is good advice. I would not bother with the anavar because two 17AA orals in one cycle is never a good thing. Anavar needs to be run at a high dose 60-100mg a day to have much affect in males. Also anavar is much harder on the blood lipids. If this is your first cycle pick the dbol over the anavar and really for a first cycle test alone is fine. I agree that aromasin is a better option for you AI. PCT run the clomid like GMO stated and also run aromasin at 25/25/25/12.5 mg ed along side of it. At the very least run the aromasin for the last 2 weeks that you run clomid and use 25 mgs ed. Good luck with your cycle keep us informed.

Originally Posted by jbt0214

Thanks GMO, you are one of the guys I look to frequently to see what you say about other guys needing opinions, bodyweight is 185. Do you think there is a benefit to finishing the cycle with Anavar or should I leave it alone?

I would listen to TGB and stick to just the d-bol, but I would run it for 6 weeks.

And, yes run Aromasin as TGB said with the Clomid for PCT...

Originally Posted by TGB1987

This is good advice. I would not bother with the anavar because two 17AA orals in one cycle is never a good thing. Anavar needs to be run at a high dose 60-100mg a day to have much affect in males. Also anavar is much harder on the blood lipids. If this is your first cycle pick the dbol over the anavar and really for a first cycle test alone is fine. I agree that aromasin is a better option for you AI. PCT run the clomid like GMO stated and also run aromasin at 25/25/25/12.5 mg ed along side of it. At the very least run the aromasin for the last 2 weeks that you run clomid and use 25 mgs ed. Good luck with your cycle keep us informed.

Do you think it would be a big deal for him to run the two orals in this cycle? The reason I ask is b/c the Dbol is listed at 4 weeks which is playing it conservative and safe. Then there's a 3-4 week period with no orals. Next, he'd start the Var which, even though it's technically 17a/a, it is considered less toxic than a standard 17a/a such as Dbol, Winny and Halo, among others. This is why I wouldn't think it to be particularly worrisome for him to run the cycle as he listed. Just wondering your thoughts on my philosophy...

Originally Posted by GMO

I would listen to TGB and stick to just the d-bol, but I would run it for 6 weeks.

And, yes run Aromasin as TGB said with the Clomid for PCT...

and what about the hcg eod?

Originally Posted by BigBird

Do you think it would be a big deal for him to run the two orals in this cycle? The reason I ask is b/c the Dbol is listed at 4 weeks which is playing it conservative and safe. Then there's a 3-4 week period with no orals. Next, he'd start the Var which, even though it's technically 17a/a, it is considered less toxic than a standard 17a/a such as Dbol, Winny and Halo, among others. This is why I wouldn't think it to be particularly worrisome for him to run the cycle as he listed. Just wondering your thoughts on my philosophy...

The OP stated that he does not have much experience with AAS, so there is really no need to run three compounds. But, yes I frequently run 2-3 orals in a cycle with 3-4 week breaks in between, depending on the type of oral I use. I also get regular blood work done though.

Originally Posted by joeyzaza

and what about the hcg eod?

You don't run HCG eod while on cycle, bro. It's twice per week...

hrrmmmm? no hcg while im on cycle? someone lied, please explain more gmo

Originally Posted by faon

hrrmmmm? no hcg while im on cycle? someone lied, please explain more gmo

NO, don't misunderstand...you do want to run it on cycle, but only 2x per week. NOT eod, as the above poster mentioned. You should be running 250-500iu twice per week to keep the boys happy...

I edited the post above, so it is less confusing. Sorry about that...

ooo my bad i missed the eod, yea i enject it on shot day twice a week my bad

Originally Posted by GMO

I would listen to TGB and stick to just the d-bol, but I would run it for 6 weeks.

And, yes run Aromasin as TGB said with the Clomid for PCT...

So up the Dbol time to 6 weeks, check, I saw hcg mentioned, does this need to be part of my cycle to maximize gains? What are the risks of no hcg, I am running this particular cycle at the suggestion of a previous post I made, but no hcg was mentioned, is it because my body is "novice" and will rebound without the hcg, or does it need to be included, trying to do the smart thing and have all bases covered before placing order, thank you gents!

Originally Posted by jbt0214

So up the Dbol time to 6 weeks, check, I saw hcg mentioned, does this need to be part of my cycle to maximize gains? What are the risks of no hcg, I am running this particular cycle at the suggestion of a previous post I made, but no hcg was mentioned, is it because my body is "novice" and will rebound without the hcg, or does it need to be included, trying to do the smart thing and have all bases covered before placing order, thank you gents!

Hey bro cycle looks good and you got the best on your side when these boys help you out. Hcg isnt really to help keep gains it's made to keep your balls. Anytime you introduce artificial test to your system the brain says stop producing it because it doesn't want a surplus. Therefore your balks where some of the hormone is created is shut off. Like any muscles that aren't used they atrify or shrink. The hcg tricks the brain into thinking the surplus is gone so the balls start working temporarily. So while on cycle it's a good idea to run hcg to keep the balls working. Some guts don't care some do to each his own. Just to make it easier for you bro your choice

Hcg will help your boys stay big

Originally Posted by jbt0214

So up the Dbol time to 6 weeks, check, I saw hcg mentioned, does this need to be part of my cycle to maximize gains? What are the risks of no hcg, I am running this particular cycle at the suggestion of a previous post I made, but no hcg was mentioned, is it because my body is "novice" and will rebound without the hcg, or does it need to be included, trying to do the smart thing and have all bases covered before placing order, thank you gents!

It is up to you...

Do you absolutely need it IMO...no.

Will it hurt you if you include it...no.