Thread: where to start??!?!

you should read a bit more about aas before considering it first off, second off your to young, third youve only been back in the gym 6 months that is not long enough you still have alot of natural gains

and as far as the dbol goes im thinking your talking about running the dbol alone, in that case you willl not keep many gains at all and will really end up wasting whatever you pay without a proper cycle and pct

Well.. id say you are too young for AAS but you will ignore that part anyway.

So id do a Test only cycle 10-12 weeks.

If you read around the forum you will find out that Oral only cycles are a waste.


But anyways.... I was in your position and i stuck through lifted heavy and ate and ate some more then finally jumped in AAS at 24.


Stick to creatine, whey and jack3d bro.

Originally Posted by faon

you should read a bit more about aas before considering it first off, second off your to young, third youve only been back in the gym 6 months that is not long enough you still have alot of natural gains

and as far as the dbol goes im thinking your talking about running the dbol alone, in that case you willl not keep many gains at all and will really end up wasting whatever you pay without a proper cycle and pct

I know thats what i heard which is why i was asking whether or not to stack with winstrol.

and why do you say im too young? just curious as to the actual reasons behind it. Will it severly affect me in the long run? even if i only do one cycle for summer and then stick with the jak3d and stuff after that?

Originally Posted by monster1114

I know thats what i heard which is why i was asking whether or not to stack with winstrol.

and why do you say im too young? just curious as to the actual reasons behind it. Will it severly affect me in the long run? even if i only do one cycle for summer and then stick with the jak3d and stuff after that?

because your endocrine system is on full blast at your age and pumping plenty of hormones through your system naturally including testosterone. if you introduce a synthetic hormone like testosterone/steroids into your system, there's a great chance of disrupting your endocrine system for a long time or even for good in some cases.

the ideal age to start aas is around 24-25 when your endocrine system is fully developed and your growth plates are definately sealed/fused completely. at LEAST wait until you're 22 bro that's the youngest i'd start. im telling you bro for your own good you're gonna want to wait a few years and just utilize what you got and then re-evaluate from there.

and just for the record, rarely do people just do 1 cycle of steroids and then never go back to doing them.

im not gonna lie to you and say that you'll DEFINATELY be fucked if you do them now but the odds are not in your favor of this being a positive experience when it's all over. ive heard from a lot more people who started at your age that they WISHED they had waited at least a few more years.

^^^^ that, also winstrol is not a "stack" for dbol

Originally Posted by monster1114

I know thats what i heard which is why i was asking whether or not to stack with winstrol.

and why do you say im too young? just curious as to the actual reasons behind it. Will it severly affect me in the long run? even if i only do one cycle for summer and then stick with the jak3d and stuff after that?

Cause once you do 1 cycle you will not want to stop doing them.

Wait till you are 25yrs old to start your body is still producing so much test and hormones at this age it will fuck up your natural test production so please wait. You can eat and train different ways to meet your goals at this time in your training and life.

There are some good people on this board that are looking out for you so just stick with it and soon enough you'll be juicing it up lol just wait till 25

Originally Posted by faon

^^^^ that, also winstrol is not a "stack" for dbol

and neither is Anadrol.

opps i missed that one, good call bigbird

Originally Posted by faon

opps i missed that one, good call bigbird

that's ok, although I'm sure there might be a dude (or two) that have stacked the 'Bol with the 'Drol. Can't say that I have, nor would I have any interest in doing so.

Thanks Guys appreciate the advice

Your a huge fuckin kid, sounds like your doing just fine for now without anabolic's. Don't mess with what is already working for you, be patient. Plus with your size you should've in sports where their going to test you for all of the above. Just my thoughts

Do not use AAS too early or you will never reach your full potential. If you wait until you have as much mass a possible before AAS you will only end up with more muscle and strength in the end. You have basically no knowledge of steroids at all. This is another reason you should not use them even if you were of age I would tell you not to use them because of this. AAS is not something you learn overnight. It will take a few years til you are really knowledged enough to know how to use them correctly and even then things change very fast in this industry. You have enough time to begin studying them now and when you are of a more proper age you will be ready. I started researching AAS when I was 17 but did not touch them until I was 22 about to be 23. I had been training since 12 years old. I am glad I waited. It was hard to resist but it was well worth it. You still have room to grow naturally.