Thread: 2nd Pct? Advice please. (bloodwork included)

I finished my 500/week of Test E for 10 weeks, followed by my 4 week PCT about 4 months ago. PCT included the following: Nolva 40/40/20/20
I ran HCG 500iu every 5 days starting around the second week of my cycle. I concluded hcg use roughly 10 days after cycle stopped (before pct obviously) Following my PCT i have felt more tired / low labido for the last few months. I decided to get blood work done just to see what the deal was. The results are as follows.

Total test 270
All other non hormone work was normal.

I went back to the doc to view these results and she recommended I get blood drawn and tested again. I wasn't satisfied with the very narrow tests she was doing so I also asked for the following. It has been 2 weeks since my initial blood work and the results are as follows


FSH 1.8
LH 4.4
Estrogen Total 24
Estradiol 14
Total Test 443
Thyroid 1.23
All non hormone panels came back top notch.
(i still dont know what to think about my first test or this second test accuracy, the results are about 3 weeks apart)

( The only thing we can compare is the Test level, and both of the bloods were drawn at the same time on both days--around noon.)

I was considering running a 2nd low dose PCT including clomid and nolva this time instead of only nolva to see if it makes me feel less tired/ back to my old self. I am under the assumption this will boost my FSH and LH levels and in turn increase testosterone levels. I am curious if I indeed do a 2nd PCT, and it does increase my test levels will they stay elevated (assuming my natural test level is higher than 443) after i conclude the 2nd PCT. I will be getting blood again one month after the 2nd pct is through if I do a 2nd pct.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

This is correct. ^ Nolva is not for PCT and really has not place in any cycle anymore except for emergency gyno treatment which won't occur if you use an AI while on cycle such as aromasin. Aromasin also increases IGF1 where nolva decreases it which is terrible during PCT. Nolva for PCT is old news. Aromasin can increase test by 60%. Using it during your cycle with HCG will keep you testes stimulated and prevent total shutdown making PCT much easier. PCT should be Clomid and Aromasin. Do not run a second PCT IMO it appears that your levels are finally rebounding and should continue to do so hopefully. This is a risk of using AAS. They could permanently end up shutting down your HPTA. Usually this doesn't happen until years of use and abuse have occurred but it is possible and everyone is different so it is hard to tell. Next time make sure you are doing things correctly before you start a cycle this could of been prevented IMO.

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Well said...