Thread: Prolactin and Estradiol are normal, yet still getting gyno?

you gain any weight yet?

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I'm sorry bro, I hope you find out soon.

Are you running letro or nolva?

stop using 19 nor compounds. prolactin levels can be local and not systemic. Tren is a progestin as well. I would drop the tren for a while and replace with another anabolic. Maybe either equipoise, masteron, dihydroboldenone or primobolin. Three of those don't even aromatise and have no progestogenic activity. The other, equipoise only converts to estrogen at 1/2 to 1/4 of testosterone but no progestogenic activity that I know of. Another thing I have done in the past, and it is old school adn probably you will not want to do this, is go off all injectables and do a low dose of winstrol with clomid or nolvadex. That always dried mine right out and the SERM protects the joints somewhat on a low dose of like 10-15 mg of winstrol a day. The anabolic actually helps hold mass and the SERM, in addition to giving you some control at the breast for hormone flux, will give your nads a little perk. Usually people flame me for such advice but it's worked for me many times. A modern alternative is to get right off and dose an AI really high. This is more counter productive IMO. You'll drop your gains and get brittle.

Im gyno prone myself.. recently did a cycle with tren & test (similar to you), and my lump grew. I started with 1.25mg letro e4d, and increased it to e2d. This kept everything in check - but I could still squeeze fluid out of my titties! I eventually popped some nolva, 1 week after I stopped the tren (was still on test) - and it stopped the fluid.. and instantly decreased the size of my lump. Im now 4 weeks into PCT, and my lump is back to normal size (very small). But the last week now, I can squeeze shit out of my nipples again.. grrrr

Lump is small.. but some fluid. Im hoping everything will turn back to normal after im done with the nolva.. thinking about popping some caber, but im not sure if it will help.

Annoying shit...

Note: Nobody can see it.. if im really really hot, I can see some puffiness.. but I don't think anyone else would notice.



Hope you figure it out!

you already had gyno and ran a cycle without AI?

Originally Posted by Testonut

Im gyno prone myself.. recently did a cycle with tren & test (similar to you), and my lump grew. I started with 1.25mg letro e4d, and increased it to e2d. This kept everything in check - but I could still squeeze fluid out of my titties! I eventually popped some nolva, 1 week after I stopped the tren (was still on test) - and it stopped the fluid.. and instantly decreased the size of my lump. Im now 4 weeks into PCT, and my lump is back to normal size (very small). But the last week now, I can squeeze shit out of my nipples again.. grrrr

Lump is small.. but some fluid. Im hoping everything will turn back to normal after im done with the nolva.. thinking about popping some caber, but im not sure if it will help.

Annoying shit...

Note: Nobody can see it.. if im really really hot, I can see some puffiness.. but I don't think anyone else would notice.



Hope you figure it out!

I've had a bit of gyno since puberty, shit sucksss, if I'm anything above 10-11% bf it destroys the appearance of my chest and is sorta visible through a shirt, not sure if anyone else would notice but I sure as hell do. Be glad yours isn't very bad and take every possible precaution to keep it from getting worse because it blowsss

Originally Posted by Glycomann

stop using 19 nor compounds. prolactin levels can be local and not systemic. Tren is a progestin as well. I would drop the tren for a while and replace with another anabolic. Maybe either equipoise, masteron, dihydroboldenone or primobolin. Three of those don't even aromatise and have no progestogenic activity. The other, equipoise only converts to estrogen at 1/2 to 1/4 of testosterone but no progestogenic activity that I know of. Another thing I have done in the past, and it is old school adn probably you will not want to do this, is go off all injectables and do a low dose of winstrol with clomid or nolvadex. That always dried mine right out and the SERM protects the joints somewhat on a low dose of like 10-15 mg of winstrol a day. The anabolic actually helps hold mass and the SERM, in addition to giving you some control at the breast for hormone flux, will give your nads a little perk. Usually people flame me for such advice but it's worked for me many times. A modern alternative is to get right off and dose an AI really high. This is more counter productive IMO. You'll drop your gains and get brittle.

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Sounds like you are very prone to it from your past threads and posts. You will always have to be very careful. Surgery is your best option.

This is why 19 nors scare the shit out of me. Controlling E2 is pretty much straight forward, but prolactin gyno seems complicated to deal with.

maybe switch to tren acetate ?

I'm going to have to have surgery myself.